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Shambles
02-02-2008, 08:08 AM
Hammaga salom!!!

Seychas v Evrope, dumayetsya i v Shtatah toje, idet burnoe uvlechenie "bio" produktami... Eti produkty, kak pravilo, stoyat doroje i imeyut hudshiy vkus po sravneniyu s "nebio" produktami... Yest' li kakie-nibud' nadejnie issledovaniya po povodu bol'shey poleznosti etih "bio" produktov??? Imenno nadejniye issledovaniya, a ne nichem ne podkreplenniye tochki zreniya i ubejdeniya... Ya pochemu-to poymal sebya na mysli, chto "bio" produkty - eto horoshiy, gramotniy i vigodniy marketingoviy hod, kot. neschadno ekspluatiruyet naivnuyu chelovecheskuyu veru v nekuyu panatseyu... Mojet ya chereschur skepticheski nastroen, vpolne dopuskayu... Poetomu bylo by interesno poslushat' Vashi mneniya po etomu povodu...

Frida
02-02-2008, 08:30 AM
Hammaga salom!!!

Seychas v Evrope, dumayetsya i v Shtatah toje, idet burnoe uvlechenie "bio" produktami... Eti produkty, kak pravilo, stoyat doroje i imeyut hudshiy vkus po sravneniyu s "nebio" produktami... Yest' li kakie-nibud' nadejnie issledovaniya po povodu bol'shey poleznosti etih "bio" produktov??? Imenno nadejniye issledovaniya, a ne nichem ne podkreplenniye tochki zreniya i ubejdeniya... Ya pochemu-to poymal sebya na mysli, chto "bio" produkty - eto horoshiy, gramotniy i vigodniy marketingoviy hod, kot. neschadno ekspluatiruyet naivnuyu chelovecheskuyu veru v nekuyu panatseyu... Mojet ya chereschur skepticheski nastroen, vpolne dopuskayu... Poetomu bylo by interesno poslushat' Vashi mneniya po etomu povodu...

Shambles, tut v amerike "moda" na "natural or organic products". naschet togo chto stoyat oni dorozhe eto pravda, no pro vkus ne soglashus'. natural'nye oni vkusnee. they taste exactly like vegetables and fruits from home. i buy my meat products only from organic food stores. i cannot afford buying everything from there, but meat it is something that i better pay more and eat organic, rather than buying "who-knows-how-they-were-raised" type of meat. you know that whole story about the chicken eating food that contains parts of chicken. :( so....

also, i would not call it "fashion" actually. with all this genetically modified food some people are worried. you are what you eat --- so some people do not want to eat a carrot which actually has "human" genes :)

nemets
02-02-2008, 08:34 AM
Штамп БИО на продуктах- это уже печать, сертифицирующая, что продукт выведен или произведен на натуральном земельном угодии с добавками натуральных удобрений в случае с растениями. Разрешение для использования этой печати строго регламентируется в соотвествии с определёнными стандартами. Продукты из таких фирм регулярно проверяются независимыми экпертными организациями. А так же проверятся вся инфраструктура производства и выращивания. Там масса документов для этого требуется регулярно оформлять.
Вкус отличается потому-что запрещены ароматизаторы. Но, например помидоры мне очень нравятся, а также масса других овощей и фруктов. Я практически все овощи и фрукты со штампом БИО покупаю.

Так что насчёт коммерческого трюка я сомневаюсь, так как сертификация происходит параллельно от нескольких независимых организий. Вот например европейские контролируюшие структуры:

http://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/qual/organic/logo/index_en.htm

http://www.bio-siegel.de/index.php?id=19&L=1

Dr_Didro
02-02-2008, 08:35 AM
Na schyot bio-productov v USandA ya ne slishal no vot organic food to da kak Frida zametila oni doroje i vkusnee. Whole Foods store is a famous one. Nu ya starayus inogda viyezjat na fermi, i otuda pokupat' u "dehkanov".

Na schyot klonirovaniya risa ya slishal. Na primer na Fillipinah, iz za togo chto unih problema s produktami pitaniya, oni kloniruyut ris. Mojet ti eto imel v vidu Sham?

nemets
02-02-2008, 08:50 AM
кстати, когда бываю в ташкенте я только и делаю, что поглащаю био-продукты: черешня, вишня, яблоки, персики, абрикосы, груши. мясо тоже без всяких анаболиков и антибиотиков. рис настоящий у нас, вкусный.
хлеб свежий и без всяких антиоксидантов и ароматизоторов.
а вот бахчевые у нас напичканы всякой химией.

Camellia
02-02-2008, 04:20 PM
Shambles, tut v amerike "moda" na "natural or organic products". naschet togo chto stoyat oni dorozhe eto pravda, no pro vkus ne soglashus'. natural'nye oni vkusnee. they taste exactly like vegetables and fruits from home. i buy my meat products only from organic food stores. i cannot afford buying everything from there, but meat it is something that i better pay more and eat organic, rather than buying "who-knows-how-they-were-raised" type of meat. you know that whole story about the chicken eating food that contains parts of chicken. :( so....

also, i would not call it "fashion" actually. with all this genetically modified food some people are worried. you are what you eat --- so some people do not want to eat a carrot which actually has "human" genes :)


Not sure about other parts of Europe but in North (mainly Scandic countries) there are organic food and bio food. Шkologi (organic food) is 100% natural food which has no chemicals, no preservatives, no GE additives.

Bio food is the same as organic food, but, in addition it has no sodium, no carbs, no cholesterol, etc. So, bio food is good for those who control their weight and keep gorgeous figure. It's also healthier than organic food too.

I never saw bio food in the U.S., it tastes awful though and costs a lot more expensive than organic, all natural food.

Regular food in Northern Europe tastes the same as the U.S. organic, very delicious, just like from home. Organic is yummm :D

European countries, Australia, Japan, even Russia requires GE stamp on genetically modified food, only the U.S.D.A did not approve the stamp requirement because most of the food in the U.S. is actually genetically engineered :(

Ppl if you value your health, go organic!

fidis
02-02-2008, 04:41 PM
organic is always delicious.

I don't agree with you shambles that they normally taste bad.

I know many people are skeptical to buy them due to prices. But if you have a decent job in europe or us you can afford it.

Shambles
02-02-2008, 06:35 PM
Thanks for interesting responses, however, still lacking some serious research on the issue...