PDA

View Full Version : have you ever read Bible from cover to cover?


Inspiredmind
02-25-2008, 02:18 PM
Assalamy aleykum, everyone,

you are muslim, brother and sister, and have u ever (have u ever had desire to) read Bible from cover to cover? if, yes, what did you make read it?, if not, why? thank you for your value opinions.

El Greco
02-25-2008, 02:19 PM
hi, everyone,

you are muslim, brother and sister, and have u ever read Bible from cover to cover? if, yes, what did you make read it?, if not, why? thank you for your value opinions.

Does a Christian count?:)

Inspiredmind
02-25-2008, 02:24 PM
Does a Christian count?:)

sorry, no
but, they can answer reverse my qeustions, that is, have u ever read Quran from cover to cover? and so on with explanations, thanx

El Greco
02-25-2008, 02:26 PM
sorry, no
but, they can answer reverse my qeustions, that is, have u ever read Quran from cover to cover? and so on with explanations, thanx

Unfortnatelly i haven't although i have though of it some times

R.Azimov
02-25-2008, 02:28 PM
Leviticus dagi "lord" nig Muso bilan Aaronga qarata aytilgan bo'limlarini o'qiganman. Old testimony bilan new ni solishtirish uchun.


Bibliyani men nasroniylar uchun oddiy qo'llanma sifatida bilaman. (chunki u kitob o'zgartirilib, no longer HOLY bo'lib qolgan... )


RA

El Greco
02-25-2008, 02:28 PM
Assalamy aleykum, everyone,

you are muslim, brother and sister, and have u ever (have u ever had desire to) read Bible from cover to cover? if, yes, what did you make read it?, if not, why? thank you for your value opinions.

what are yr conclusions ?

El Greco
02-25-2008, 02:32 PM
By saying Bible iassume that u refer to Holy Gospels right?

Demir Kağan
02-25-2008, 02:58 PM
I had a Bible in my library and I can't find it now. :) But yes, I read it, not from starting to the end but many parts.

Inspiredmind
02-25-2008, 03:03 PM
please, draw u clear state like R.Azimov.

_uSu_
02-25-2008, 03:03 PM
Yep. just some parts. is it bad???

Royal
02-25-2008, 03:08 PM
in Hotel rooms, i see them always...couple times i opened and look over from beginning to end, just by interest...then i just ignore them or put them in different place of the room....

but why read it, when they say , Bible was not original and written and changed so many time, i think they forget what was at the beginning and when Vatican admit that they do not have a original at all.

Inspiredmind
02-25-2008, 03:08 PM
Yep. just some parts. is it bad???

please, dont be in state with No or YEs, please, do clear answer with full of explanation if u can, what did u make read Bible?

_uSu_
02-25-2008, 03:22 PM
please, dont be in state with No or YEs, please, do clear answer with full of explanation if u can, what did u make read Bible?

When i was too young, one clever guy told me that if u want to win ur enemy then try to know everything about him. After 2-3 years later at school i was debating with one christian guy about religion... So in order to win him i had to read Bible...

RockerDen
02-25-2008, 03:25 PM
V proshlom prochital 2 knigi iz Tory ot korki do korki - seychas ele-chto pomnyu.

Inspiredmind
02-25-2008, 03:25 PM
When i was too young, one clever guy told me that if u want to win ur enemy then try to know everything about him. After 2-3 years later at school i was debating with one christian guy about religion... So in order to win him i had to read Bible...


u state is clear. thanx.

Inspiredmind
02-25-2008, 03:27 PM
V proshlom prochital 2 knigi iz Tory ot korki do korki - seychas ele-chto pomnyu.

u r not in question, sorry, please answer the qeustion with your view of point.

El Greco
02-25-2008, 03:38 PM
When i was too young, one clever guy told me that if u want to win ur enemy then try to know everything about him. After 2-3 years later at school i was debating with one christian guy about religion... So in order to win him i had to read Bible...

"enemy" not accepted

Inspiredmind
02-25-2008, 03:44 PM
"enemy" not accepted

:), maybe, good point.But, Allah knows best, please, stay in qeustion. PLEASE.

El Greco
02-25-2008, 03:47 PM
:), maybe, good point.But, Allah knows best, please, stay in qeustion. PLEASE.

Allah or God , does not wish anybody's harm sir!! Only devol

Inspiredmind
02-25-2008, 03:52 PM
Allah or God , does not wish anybody's harm sir!! Only devol

ok, please let's see other's opinions of my previous qeustion.

El Greco
02-25-2008, 04:06 PM
ok, please let's see other's opinions of my previous qeustion.

A negative comment was done and the only thing u have to say it's ok lets go further ? Come on! U have read the Bible? I doubth
"When i was too young, one clever guy told me that if u want to win ur enemy then try to know everything about him. After 2-3 years later at school i was debating with one christian guy about religion... So in order to win him i had to read Bible.."

Christian and Muslims do not have to be enemies it's not writen in Quran neither in Holy Gospels.
Yr answer:Allah knows better(?) What do u suggest here? I would like to know plz.

Inspiredmind
02-25-2008, 04:16 PM
A negative comment was done and the only thing u have to say it's ok lets go further ? Come on! U have read the Bible? I doubth
"When i was too young, one clever guy told me that if u want to win ur enemy then try to know everything about him. After 2-3 years later at school i was debating with one christian guy about religion... So in order to win him i had to read Bible.."

Christian and Muslims do not have to be enemies it's not writen in Quran neither in Holy Gospels.
Yr answer:Allah knows better(?) What do u suggest here? I would like to know plz.

brother, my knowledge is limited to answer u question, and i fear to answer not to correct, and ido think u r in agree with me. pls, lemme have some time to gain of that knowledge, then i will for sure answer to u with my pleasure, Insha'Allah.

El Greco
02-25-2008, 04:24 PM
brother, my knowledge is limited to answer u question, and i fear to answer not to correct, and ido think u r in agree with me. pls, lemme have some time to gain of that knowledge, then i will for sure answer to u with my pleasure, Insha'Allah.

Hechqisi yo'q

Prinzessin
02-25-2008, 07:28 PM
Assalamy aleykum, everyone,

you are muslim, brother and sister, and have u ever (have u ever had desire to) read Bible from cover to cover? if, yes, what did you make read it?, if not, why? thank you for your value opinions.
Well, I read Bible several years ago, when I was just 13 or 14. The main reason for my decision to read was an interest in the history of religions and their formation as well as the wish to know more about the lifes of prophets. I was always wondering why there are different kinds of religions and how they were formed, even though all of them tell that there's only one God. Moreover, it was really curious to comprehend the difference between Christianity and Judaism and why they are separate religions now, although Jesus was a Jew :rolleyes:

Inspiredmind
02-26-2008, 04:44 AM
any answers opinions and explanations...?

smirnoff
02-26-2008, 07:45 AM
Assalamy aleykum, everyone,

you are muslim, brother and sister, and have u ever (have u ever had desire to) read Bible from cover to cover? if, yes, what did you make read it?, if not, why? thank you for your value opinions.

no! I do not even have desire of reading it. What value does it have for you? What's your purpose behind asking this question? For me it is just like a book- crap rewritten, rewritten and rewritten many times to make it serve for some people's interests.

you are muslim, brother and sister, and have u ever.
You know what effect does your "and" carry? What you mean here? Every muslim must read it?

And why did you start with
you are muslim, brother and sister,.

Inspiredmind
02-26-2008, 08:13 AM
no! I do not even have desire of reading it. What value does it have for you? What's your purpose behind asking this question? For me it is just like a book- crap rewritten, rewritten and rewritten many times to make it serve for some people's interests.


You know what effect does your "and" carry? What you mean here? Every muslim must read it?

And why did you start with

Assalamu aleikum, brother,

why did u think right question with wrong mind? pls, calm down, and think twice b4 saying smthing wrong. and i do allow u to know, that is, i did open this thread with the best and pure intention. And, just answer question if u want it, or leave it, please. And, i didn't ask Bible has been changed or not, please be in question, and act with beautiful mind.

El Greco
02-26-2008, 08:15 AM
no! I do not even have desire of reading it. What value does it have for you? What's your purpose behind asking this question? For me it is just like a book- crap rewritten, rewritten and rewritten many times to make it serve for some people's interests.


You know what effect does your "and" carry? What you mean here? Every muslim must read it?

And why did you start with

Holy Gospels have never been changed since the times they were wroten

smirnoff
02-26-2008, 08:18 AM
Assalamu aleikum, brother,

why did u think right question with wrong mind? pls, calm down, and think twice b4 saying smthing wrong. and i do allow u to know, that is, i did open this thread with the best and pure intention. And, just answer question if u want it, or leave it, please. And, i didn't ask Bible has been changed or not, please be in question, and act with beautiful mind.

Well, if you have noticed above I DID answer your question and asked my questions which were left without response. And please be more than sure about my calmness.

smirnoff
02-26-2008, 08:21 AM
Holy Gospels have never been changed since the times they were wroten

"I let the sleeping dogs lie."

El Greco
02-26-2008, 08:29 AM
"I let the sleeping dogs lie."

sleeping dogs lie???meaning?

ДЖИГИТ
02-26-2008, 11:11 AM
Assalamy aleykum, everyone,

you are muslim, brother and sister, and have u ever (have u ever had desire to) read Bible from cover to cover? if, yes, what did you make read it?, if not, why? thank you for your value opinions.


which one?
there are so many versions of Bible (Gospels) that if you read one, the other would be different. So you have to read all of them and still have no clue what is original... it's messed up. Never read them fully though.

~Atirgul~
02-26-2008, 11:19 AM
Я детскую библию с иллюстрацией в детстве читала from cover to cover, kartinkalariga qiziqib o'qib o'tirardim

El Greco
02-26-2008, 11:21 AM
which one?
there are so many versions of Bible (Gospels) that if you read one, the other would be different. So you have to read all of them and still have no clue what is original... it's messed up. Never read them fully though.

Holy Gospels had been wroten by diferent Apostols,so it is easy to understand a few diferences in writing style.They all refer to same facts. They are all original

ДЖИГИТ
02-26-2008, 12:27 PM
Holy Gospels had been wroten by diferent Apostols,so it is easy to understand a few diferences in writing style.They all refer to same facts. They are all original

what you r referring as writing styles actually turn out to be controversies in facts and in no way writing styles. I'm not even talking about gospels that were omitted from Bible (like Barnabas) during Constantine's reign. As a result, christians read Gospels that the main church want them to read. Whatever other gospels contradict their doctrine - trinity, which is polytheism, they reject them. I'm not here to bring up another endless debate. Whoever needs info, they'll find, whoever don't care about it, they'll keep reading whatever they are given to read.

spoon
02-27-2008, 09:12 AM
have read both old and new testament as part of our Bible study at high school.

the abundance of free donuts and beverages made the time pass much quickly.


But I see no big deal in learning about other religions.

Somebody going to sunday chapels doesn't make him a religious person in any way.

Silence
02-27-2008, 09:21 AM
Assalamy aleykum, everyone,

you are muslim, brother and sister, and have u ever (have u ever had desire to) read Bible from cover to cover? if, yes, what did you make read it?, if not, why? thank you for your value opinions.

Новый Завет в свое время знала почти наизусть. Евангелие для детей с картинками - замечательное чтиво. Позже читала как минимум 2 варианта взрослого Евангелия. Почему читала? Искала свою религиозную нишу.

El Greco
02-27-2008, 09:48 AM
what you r referring as writing styles actually turn out to be controversies in facts and in no way writing styles. I'm not even talking about gospels that were omitted from Bible (like Barnabas) during Constantine's reign. As a result, christians read Gospels that the main church want them to read. Whatever other gospels contradict their doctrine - trinity, which is polytheism, they reject them. I'm not here to bring up another endless debate. Whoever needs info, they'll find, whoever don't care about it, they'll keep reading whatever they are given to read.

"I'm not even talking about gospels that were omitted from Bible (like Barnabas) during Constantine's reign"

U mean Judas Gospel :)>it isn't representative of Jesus preach

Uyyonli
02-27-2008, 10:02 AM
A negative comment was done and the only thing u have to say it's ok lets go further ? Come on! U have read the Bible? I doubth
"When i was too young, one clever guy told me that if u want to win ur enemy then try to know everything about him. After 2-3 years later at school i was debating with one christian guy about religion... So in order to win him i had to read Bible.."

Christian and Muslims do not have to be enemies it's not writen in Quran neither in Holy Gospels.
Yr answer:Allah knows better(?) What do u suggest here? I would like to know plz.
Christians are not enemies. As a matter of fact if there was no Christians before then we would be the one. We all believers of the Allmighty! Except u guys have to know the trueth what has been done to u "the People of the Book" The "book" the biblia is not completely changed but most important parts of the book has been rewritten. It was against Allahs order, so Allah sent Muhammad SAW to save us from eternel punishment.
Since then qur'an has not been changed. Muhammad SAW is last messenger and is quoted in Qur'an. So that means we have the last warning.

El Greco
02-27-2008, 10:05 AM
Christians are not enemies. As a matter of fact if there was no Christians before then we would be the one. We all believers of the Allmighty! Except u guys have to know the trueth what has been done to u "the People of the Book" The "book" the biblia is not completely changed but most important parts of the book has been rewritten. It was against Allahs order, so Allah sent Muhammad SAW to save us from eternel punishment.
Since then qur'an has not been changed. Muhammad SAW is last messenger and is quoted in Qur'an. So that means we have the last warning.

Of course this is what Islam is supporting. I can ask u too how are u sure that Quran wasn't change since Profet Muhammad times?

Uyyonli
02-27-2008, 10:06 AM
My current status.
I am attending to Church to learn and know the people of Book. I want to compare the timelines and the history that is written in the Qur'an and the Bible.

Uyyonli
02-27-2008, 10:08 AM
Of course this is what Islam is supporting. I can ask u too how are u sure that Quran wasn't change since Profet Muhammad times?
Yes I am sure.

El Greco
02-27-2008, 10:14 AM
Yes I am sure.

Hey! You haven't answer me why

Gareeb
02-27-2008, 11:28 AM
O'qimaganman, o'qish niyatim ham yo'q

JOUBERAR
05-30-2008, 05:44 PM
When i was too young, one clever guy told me that if u want to win ur enemy then try to know everything about him. After 2-3 years later at school i was debating with one christian guy about religion... So in order to win him i had to read Bible...

You don't have to study a religion to see if it is false when you are true christian.
JESUS have warned the christians about false prophets well no other words will replace the word of GOD now we should never question the word of GOD shal we who's book is now corrupt.
GALATIONS 1 : 8 - 10
However, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to YOU as good news something beyond what we declared to YOU as good news, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said above, I also now say again, Whoever it is that is declaring to YOU as good news something beyond what YOU accepted, let him be accursed.
10 Is it, in fact, men I am now trying to persuade or God? Or am I seeking to please men? If I were yet pleasing men, I would not be Christ’s slave. 11 For I put YOU on notice, brothers, that the good news which was declared by me as good news is not something human; 12 for neither did I receive it from man, nor was I taught [it], except through revelation by Jesus Christ.

JOUBERAR
05-30-2008, 06:41 PM
My current status.
I am attending to Church to learn and know the people of Book. I want to compare the timelines and the history that is written in the Qur'an and the Bible.

:kill:
Genesis 1


1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 8And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

The quran.

The opening
1 In the of Allah,most graciuos most mercifull.
2 Praise be to allah and sustainer of the worlds ( I am aware there is only one world)
3 Most gracious most merciful ( just to remind ) creation a bit later.
4 Master of the day of judgement.
5Thee do we worship and thine aid we seek.

It is strange Allah praise himself before he created anything.

Took the Caliphs a 150 to 200 years after Muhamed's death to figure that out.

The quran haven't got a proper beginning or entrance niether have it got a proper content or reasonable exit and they the muslims are quick to judge that the original written word of GOD if it is coruppted in other words false but the jews have narrated the word of GOD for ages and ages and they still doing no jew or christian will contradict the word of GOD BECAUSE THE PUNISHMENT will be severe.One day a man set up boxing ring to fight against Christ and what happen GOD send a small spider bit him and he died on the seen.Now who are we to turn against the unfelible word of GOD.

If you read a history book will you do research to see if something was left out of the history book.

Uyyonli
05-30-2008, 07:23 PM
:kill:
Genesis 1


1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 8And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

The quran.

The opening
1 In the of Allah,most graciuos most mercifull.
2 Praise be to allah and sustainer of the worlds ( I am aware there is only one world)
3 Most gracious most merciful ( just to remind ) creation a bit later.
4 Master of the day of judgement.
5Thee do we worship and thine aid we seek.

It is strange Allah praise himself before he created anything.

Took the Caliphs a 150 to 200 years after Muhamed's death to figure that out.

The quran haven't got a proper beginning or entrance niether have it got a proper content or reasonable exit and they the muslims are quick to judge that the original written word of GOD if it is coruppted in other words false but the jews have narrated the word of GOD for ages and ages and they still doing no jew or christian will contradict the word of GOD BECAUSE THE PUNISHMENT will be severe.One day a man set up boxing ring to fight against Christ and what happen GOD send a small spider bit him and he died on the seen.Now who are we to turn against the unfelible word of GOD.

If you read a history book will you do research to see if something was left out of the history book.

Islam is the continuation of the religion of Moses, Jesus and Abraham Alayhi-Wa-Salam. So Quran didn't have to start from explaining from the beginning. But if you Quran all the way through it tells you everyithing it tell you the history of the Whole Earth.


Man whatch your gun!!! Becuase I can show you the real war!!!:twisted::lol:
You come to us with a gun We will respond with a gun.

Gulbasheker
05-31-2008, 05:38 AM
Alhamdulillah I have read the Qur'an many times from cover to cover but I do not want to read a single page from Bible.