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Rise_n_Fall
04-02-2008, 03:12 AM
EU nations that recognize same-sex unions as legal marriages must grant surviving partners the same pension rights as given to those in traditional marriages, the EU Court of Justice ruled Tuesday.
The Luxembourg-based court ruling was seen as a victory for a German man who was denied his partner's retirement plan payments after his partner died in 2005.
The EU court said pension plan had discriminated against the man on the grounds of sexual orientation because the men's relationship had been recognized under German law as a legally registered life partnership equivalent to a traditional marriage.
The court did not say, however, that all 27 EU nations must recognize same-sex unions, only that if they did they must grant life partners the same benefits.
Today, 10 EU nations do not recognize same-sex partnerships at all: Bulgaria, Cyprus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, Poland, Romania, Slovakia and Ireland, according to the European branch of the International Lesbian and Gay Association. France and Italy grant them very limited rights, the group said.
But elsewhere in the EU — notably in the Netherlands, Denmark and Sweden — life partnerships have acquired considerable social rights in the last 20 years.

link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080401/ap_on_re_eu/eu_gay_marriage_pension_rights)

bunaqa narsala yangilik bo'lmay qoldi ohirgi paytlarda, lekin...
ba'zida o'ylashga majbur qiladi. Odamlarga nima bo'lyapti o'zi?:rolleyes:

Guardian
04-02-2008, 04:46 AM
Odamlarga nima bo'layotgan ekan ..., Rise_n_Fall? Mavzuni savolini oydinlashtiring, iltimos.

fidis
04-02-2008, 06:32 AM
Hursand bomiysizmi undan ko'ra...Evropa ayollari tug'ishni hoxlamidi, erkaklari ayollarni hoxlamidi...Iqtisod rivojlanvotti, nima qilishadi? Ozbekistondan koproq ishchi kuchi olib kelishadi. 10-15 yilda korasiz.

Rossiyada-ku tochno 10 yilda televizorlarda Ozbeklarni korasiz (http://top.rbc.ru/index5.shtml) faqat. Angliyada Hindlaru, Afrikaanlar bogani kabi.

Bu O'zbek SNBchilarining rejalari. Svetni tez-tez o'chirish, kim uchun "veerniy otkluchenie" bosa, kim uchun "planovoe" ...Uylarni narxlari ham bekorga kotarilgani yoq. Borgan joyida qolsin deyishvotti...shunaqa...Yashasin slujbamiz...hmm, fikr erkinligi zo'r narsa-de...Geylar bilan boshlab, SNB bilan tugatvomman fikrni...Nega ekan-a? :D

Rise_n_Fall
04-02-2008, 11:33 PM
Odamlarga nima bo'layotgan ekan ..., Rise_n_Fall? Mavzuni savolini oydinlashtiring, iltimos.
manimcha artickleni o'qisayiz bu savolga hojat qolmaydi.

agar savoliz piching/kinoya ohangida, ya'ni buni nimasi g'alati, mazmunida bo'lsa bilmadim.:)

PainKiller
04-02-2008, 11:55 PM
So what's your problem with gay people again?:rolleyes:

Rise_n_Fall
04-03-2008, 12:02 AM
I understand you got used to it as it is common in the US.

melo
04-03-2008, 08:52 AM
Well who cares if he gets his partner's retirement benefits? It seems reasonable that someone should be able to give their money to who they want.

Guardian
04-03-2008, 09:16 AM
manimcha artickleni o'qisayiz bu savolga hojat qolmaydi.

agar savoliz piching/kinoya ohangida, ya'ni buni nimasi g'alati, mazmunida bo'lsa bilmadim.:)
Maqolani o'qidim, bitta fikrim bor.

Heterosexuallar muammolarii yetarli dunyoda, gay-lesbian muammolari meni unchalik qiziqtirmaydi. Sizda chi? Nima yoqmayapti? Nima uchun siz shu maqolani mavzuingiz uchun bahs nuqtasi deb oldingiz? Firklaringizni bilsak shu mavzuda xursand bulardik.

Guardian
04-03-2008, 09:17 AM
I understand you got used to it as it is common in the US.
Are you in IoM?

Uyyonli
04-03-2008, 09:26 AM
there are europeans why are u even worried about gays?

Frida
04-03-2008, 09:26 AM
nimasi endi yoqa ushlaydigan ekan? ular ham odam. davlatga,boshqaga ishlaydi, o'lib qolsa pensiya puli nima bo'ladi? olsinda o'sha birga yashagan, yaxshi-yomon kunini o'tkazgan odami. bu yerda gap gaylarga qarshi yoki qarshi emaslikda emas, balki -- qonunning hammaga bir xilda ta'sir qilishida. masalan, oddiy oilada eri o'lsa xotini pensiyani oladi, xotini o'lsa eri. shunaqa narsalar hamma uchun bir xil bo'lishi kerak. endi kimni yaxshi ko'rgani, yoki kim bilan yashashga qaror qilgani uchun butun umr ishlab topgan puli davlatga o'tib ketadimi. bu umuman inson xuquqlariga to'g'ri kelmaydi.

agar kishini seksual orientaciyasini olib tashlab, oddiy bir inson sifatida ko'rsangiz bu qonun qanchalik notog'ri ekanligini ko'rishingiz mumkin.

Royal
04-03-2008, 09:32 AM
EU nations that recognize same-sex unions as legal marriages must grant surviving partners the same pension rights as given to those in traditional marriages, the EU Court of Justice ruled Tuesday.
The Luxembourg-based court ruling was seen as a victory for a German man who was denied his partner's retirement plan payments after his partner died in 2005.
The EU court said pension plan had discriminated against the man on the grounds of sexual orientation because the men's relationship had been recognized under German law as a legally registered life partnership equivalent to a traditional marriage.
The court did not say, however, that all 27 EU nations must recognize same-sex unions, only that if they did they must grant life partners the same benefits.
Today, 10 EU nations do not recognize same-sex partnerships at all: Bulgaria, Cyprus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, Poland, Romania, Slovakia and Ireland, according to the European branch of the International Lesbian and Gay Association. France and Italy grant them very limited rights, the group said.
But elsewhere in the EU — notably in the Netherlands, Denmark and Sweden — life partnerships have acquired considerable social rights in the last 20 years.

link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080401/ap_on_re_eu/eu_gay_marriage_pension_rights)

bunaqa narsala yangilik bo'lmay qoldi ohirgi paytlarda, lekin...
ba'zida o'ylashga majbur qiladi. Odamlarga nima bo'lyapti o'zi?:rolleyes:

hmmm....daaaaa.....

azabochennie paren Rise_n_Fall....

tebya eto vopros toje ochen volnuyet ? naschyot Retirement Plan tvoyego ili kogo to ?

Rise_n_Fall
04-07-2008, 01:33 AM
hmmm....daaaaa.....

azabochennie paren Rise_n_Fall....

tebya eto vopros toje ochen volnuyet ? naschyot Retirement Plan tvoyego ili kogo to ?
ostorejnee so slovami royal BOBO! look at left.. see my avatar?

discussion of this law, retirement and other things don't matter at all. the thing is people started to adopt these all and regarding it as normal. this disgusts me. (as a normal person from islamic background).
I guess i could explain my point.

CrazyFreshman
04-17-2008, 03:42 AM
Беременный мужчина родит 3 июля :o

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6334/155942nj3.jpg

Пойди побрейся!

Невероятную историю рассказывают мировые информационные агентства и телеканалы. Будто бы в городе Бенде (штат Орегон, США) живет некий Томас Беати (Thomas Beatie), который ныне пребывает на пятом месяце беременности и ждет девочку.

Шутка, запущенная в преддверии 1 апреля? Отнюдь. Факты проверяли журналисты нескольких изданий. И в первую очередь журнала The Advocate (для геев и лесбиянок), которому Томас поведал об удивительном событии раньше других. Нил Боверман, помощник редактора журнала, божится, что их сотрудник не только говорил с самим Беати, но и беседовал с его врачом-гинекологом, которая подтвердила: мужчина действительно ждет ребенка.

Казалось бы, такого не может быть, потому что не может быть никогда: у мужчин нет органов, в которых можно было бы выносить ребенка. А у Томаса, как выяснилось, есть...

http://www.kp.ru/daily/24071.4/309015/

Gulbasheker
04-17-2008, 03:56 AM
it is disgusting :x

Demir Kağan
04-18-2008, 06:23 AM
man I'm going crazy now, omg!!!

Abu Hurayra
04-20-2008, 04:51 PM
Lut qavmida shunaqa narsalar rivojlanganidan Allohni balosi boshlariga kelib hammasi soniyalar ichida yo'qolib ketgan. Shuningdek tarixda o'tgan boshqa halqlarda ham shunga o'xshash qirilib ketishlar kuzatilgan...

Allohni balosi kelmasdan yo har bir o'sha yurtlarda yashayatgan musulmonlar ammalari bilan oldin o'zlarini o'nglab keyin boshqalarni o'nglash harakatida bo'lishlari kerak aks holda bunaqa fitnali yurtlardan ketish kerak.
Bu gap bu yerda teng huquqlik vhk boshqa baland parvoz "demokratiya" safsatalari haqida gapirib o'tirganlar uchun emas, balkim abadiy dunyo haqida ko'proq uylaydiganlar uchun tegishli...