View Full Version : умеем ли мы вести цивилизованный спор-дискуссию?
Shambles
04-13-2008, 11:10 AM
Posmotrel ya na poslednie tendentsii na forume i zadalsya voprosom, pochemu nekotoriye user'y ne umeyut sporit', sryvayutsya na lichnosti i prinimayut mnogie veschi blizko k serdtsu? Chto eto - nedostatki vospitaniya, kul'tury, nedoobrazovannost' ili chto-to chetvertoe? A mojet nedostatki emotsiy i sobytiy v real'noy jizni???
Tol'ko ne nado etot thread prevraschat' v mesto jarkih ristalisch, vzaimnih obvineniy i nahojdeniy kozlov otpuscheniya...
Izida
04-13-2008, 11:15 AM
думаю горячая кровь во всем виновата... ;) думаю недостаток эмоций в реале ни как не может влиять на то как ты будешь вести виртуальную беседу.. хотя кто знает.
anatoliydaev
04-13-2008, 11:22 AM
думаю горячая кровь во всем виновата... ;) думаю недостаток эмоций в реале ни как не может влиять на то как ты будешь вести виртуальную беседу.. хотя кто знает.
Самой главной причиной является чувство вседозволенности и безнаказанности, которое создает интернет.
Masanori
04-13-2008, 11:24 AM
poroy gordost` i chuvstvo sobstvennogo dostoinstva tolkaet lyudey na eto.
zanjir
04-13-2008, 11:31 AM
civilizaciali bahs insonning millatning shaniga tegmaydigan context yoki savollardan cheklansa ushanda sokin bahs otkazsa buladi, lekin man madaniyatlimanu san madaniyatsizsan yoki kelib chiqishin, dunyo qarashin boshqacha deydigan bosez unda shu threadni ozida ham kaltak yevolas ukaginam!
Shambles
04-13-2008, 11:34 AM
civilizaciali bahs insonning millatning shaniga tegmaydigan context yoki savollardan cheklansa ushanda sokin bahs otkazsa buladi, lekin man madaniyatlimanu san madaniyatsizsan yoki kelib chiqishin, dunyo qarashin boshqacha deydigan bosez unda shu threadni ozida ham kaltak yevolas ukaginam!
Ukaginam, yana bir martda birinchi postni o'qivoring...
Izida
04-13-2008, 11:36 AM
Самой главной причиной является чувство вседозволенности и безнаказанности, которое создает интернет.
Ниче из бог накажет !!! К примеру Виндовс полетит !!! :D:D
Shambles
04-13-2008, 11:39 AM
Самой главной причиной является чувство вседозволенности и безнаказанности, которое создает интернет.
A ya vot dumayu, chto oni i v jizni takie... Hotya opyat'-taki logika v tvoih slovah prisutstvuyet...:D
Izida
04-13-2008, 11:42 AM
civilizaciali bahs insonning millatning shaniga tegmaydigan context yoki savollardan cheklansa ushanda sokin bahs otkazsa buladi, lekin man madaniyatlimanu san madaniyatsizsan yoki kelib chiqishin, dunyo qarashin boshqacha deydigan bosez unda shu threadni ozida ham kaltak yevolas ukaginam!
Цивильное ведение дисскусии тем и отличаеться, что человек даже услышав оскорбление в свой адрес реагирует адекватно. Представляете, где был бы сейчас Жириновский если бы все исходили бы из того что вы говорите ? :D
eusko
04-13-2008, 11:52 AM
я свою агрессию высвобождаю путем прослушивания кое-какой брутальной музыки. помогает. потом добрый становлюсь.:d
Monic
04-13-2008, 12:10 PM
Kogda ti uveren chto chelovek obijayushiy ili oskorblyayushiy tebya nichego ne stoit, nu skajem ochen glupiy i bessmislenniy provokator.
V etom sluchae reagiruesh normalno.
No kogda etot chelovek chemto i kogdato(hotyabi mneniyem ili vzglyadami) bil tebe simpatichen, togda eto bolno, navernoe togda i srivaeshsya....
Soglasna eto ne civilizovanno.
Magnolia
04-13-2008, 12:31 PM
вердикт один...не умеем,сразу лезем на личности.
Тюльпан
04-13-2008, 12:37 PM
Самой главной причиной является чувство вседозволенности и безнаказанности, которое создает интернет.
+1
Могу добавить, что я думаю - это люди с комплексами: в реале не могут самореализоваться, и выплескивают негатив в нете. :rolleyes:
Vector
04-13-2008, 12:41 PM
вердикт один...не умеем,сразу лезем на личности.
eto ti pro sebya toje? :lol:
on: i wonder in a real life discussions, would this problem occur? :)
anatoliydaev
04-13-2008, 12:48 PM
on: i wonder in a real life discussions, would this problem occur? :)
Зависит от весовой категории оппонента :)
Пушкарева
04-13-2008, 12:58 PM
A esho ochen trudno vesti besedu, obyasnit chto-libo cheloveku, kogda on prosto nesposoben tebya ponyat. Togda dumaesh, "a nu ladno, prosto emu tyajelo, on mentalno ogranichenniy" i prosto perestayosh pitatsya chto-libo voobshe obyasnyat, ponimaya chto vse tvoi usiliya - bespolezni. Zachem tratit vremya. :)
Izida
04-13-2008, 01:14 PM
A esho ochen trudno vesti besedu, obyasnit chto-libo cheloveku, kogda on prosto nesposoben tebya ponyat. Togda dumaesh, "a nu ladno, prosto emu tyajelo, on mentalno ogranichenniy" i prosto perestayosh pitatsya chto-libo voobshe obyasnyat, ponimaya chto vse tvoi usiliya - bespolezni. Zachem tratit vremya. :)
Это адекватный человек так поступит... А мы говорим не об адекватных. :P
satik
04-13-2008, 01:21 PM
Pri vsem doljnom uvajenii k teme etoy niti, predlagayu nam zadat etot vopros SAMIM SEBE. Drugix "necivilizovannix" forumchan mojno obsujdat abstraktno i dolgo. A mi sami eto konkretniy obyekt dlya analiza.
Magnolia
04-13-2008, 01:26 PM
eto ti pro sebya toje? :lol:
on: i wonder in a real life discussions, would this problem occur? :)
а чем я не человек?:)
у меня характер и темперант под стать моему знаку зодиака (близнецы),быстро начинаю кипеть и так же быстро остываю :lol:
(а вообще научилась сдерживаться ;))
kitayoza
04-13-2008, 01:53 PM
okazivaetsya manam bunday odamga o'xshab gaplashishni bilmas ekanman.:uups:
Qusurim ko'p. Ha nima qilasan qiz bola bilan tortishib ham dib qo'ymiydi hech kim.
Chakki bo'ldide.
A tak Anatoliy yaxshi gapni etibdi "Самой главной причиной является чувство вседозволенности и безнаказанности, которое создает интернет."
Haqiqatdan to'g'ri gap.
Odam simni narigi tarafidan turvolib istaganini gapiraveradi. Kerey bo'sa harip ham deb qo'yadi.:D
Ho'sh nima qilasan shunda?!
Buni ikki yo'li bor.
Birinchisi ahmoq bilan teng bo'lib, javob qaytarishing,
ikkinchisi uni Hudoga solishing (agar Hudoga ishonsang)
Bo'ldi, boshqa usuli yo'. Ursayam bo'ladi ushavoganida, lekin uje kech bo'gan bo'ladide.
Mana qachonlardir Asadbek bitta user bilan tashashgandi. Shunda o'sha user man hali sanga ko'rsataman degandi.
Yaqinda uchrashib qolishibdi. "Nima qilding" desam, "yo' yaxshi, sodda bola ekan" diydi...:D Ana shunaqa kechirimli halqmiz biz o'zbekla..
SALAR
04-13-2008, 02:37 PM
Konechno umeem vesti zivilizovannuyu diskussiyu
Hibiscus
04-13-2008, 03:56 PM
Pri vsem doljnom uvajenii k teme etoy niti, predlagayu nam zadat etot vopros SAMIM SEBE. Drugix "necivilizovannix" forumchan mojno obsujdat abstraktno i dolgo. A mi sami eto konkretniy obyekt dlya analiza.
Prisoedinyayus. A to avtor temi posmotrev na poslednii tendencii na forume, zadalsya voprosom pochemu mnogie ne umeyut civilizovanno diskutirovat i sporit, NO ne zadal etot je VOPROS samomu sebe. Poroi mojno zametit chto imenno te, kto schitayut chto imenno oni vidut spor civilizovannim obrazom, perehodyat na lichnosti i prinimayut vse slishkom seryozno i blizko.
MUHLIS
04-13-2008, 04:01 PM
религия снова рулезззззз !!!!:twisted:
Bitta gapda endi.......
Ikki orada menga o'xshaganlarga qiyin bo'lyapti.....To'g'ri biz ba'zi bir userlarga o'xshab juda dindor emasmiz, diniy davlat qurilishi tarafdori ham emasmiz.... lekin ba'zi birlarga o'xshab tamomila ruslashib, ateistlashib ham ketmaganmiz......baribir o'zimizni shu dinga taalluqli deb bilamiz......
Shu ikkala ekstrim o'rtasida menga shaxsan juda qiyin bo'lib qoldi......
Maroon
04-13-2008, 04:04 PM
I do believe that there are a lot of retards here. I know, you feel the same towards me. :D
MUHLIS
04-13-2008, 04:09 PM
Posmotrel ya na poslednie tendentsii na forume i zadalsya voprosom, pochemu nekotoriye user'y ne umeyut sporit', sryvayutsya na lichnosti i prinimayut mnogie veschi blizko k serdtsu? Chto eto - nedostatki vospitaniya, kul'tury, nedoobrazovannost' ili chto-to chetvertoe? A mojet nedostatki emotsiy i sobytiy v real'noy jizni???
Tol'ko ne nado etot thread prevraschat' v mesto jarkih ristalisch, vzaimnih obvineniy i nahojdeniy kozlov otpuscheniya...
Naprimer:
Izida: zayavlyaet chto Uzbeki bezkul'turnie. Ya otvergayu s faktami a ona stavit moe intelektual'nie sposobnosti pod vopros.
Kolobok: iz jopi vitaskivaet zamishleniya o moem mnenii po otnoshenii sluchaya s pamyatnikom.
Nemets: daet mne warning za to chto pisal na tureckom, a sam postoyanno nasmeivaetsya i izdevaetsya nad jitel'yami sel'.
U nih est' odna obshaya cherta: none of them speak uzbek properly and alienated from uzbek culture, but feel they are the "best" uzbeks and feel like others are backward and worthless creatures.
anatoliydaev
04-13-2008, 04:15 PM
none of them speak uzbek properly and alienated from uzbek culture, but feel they are the "best" uzbeks
Можно хорошую тему создать на форуме и обсудить, что определяет the "best" uzbeks.
MUHLIS
04-13-2008, 04:17 PM
Можно хорошую тему создать на форуме и обсудить, что определяет the "best" uzbeks.
It not is not "who is the best" that concerns me, it is the feeling of entitlement some users have to mock and look down on others and their cultural and religious values, do you get it now super smart Italian football fan?
Nafees
04-13-2008, 04:19 PM
Mana qachonlardir Asadbek bitta user bilan tashashgandi. Shunda o'sha user man hali sanga ko'rsataman degandi.
Yaqinda uchrashib qolishibdi. "Nima qilding" desam, "yo' yaxshi, sodda bola ekan" diydi...:D Ana shunaqa kechirimli halqmiz biz o'zbekla..
O'zi yo'q odam haqida gap ketvotti yahshimas, yahshimas... birovni birov haqidagi g'iybatini ommaga yoyvossizmi hoji aka? YANA U ODAM BILAN Asadbekni muhokama qilganingizni ham yashirmabsiz...
Asadbek aka sodda emas, oliyjanob. "ko'rsat"olmaganidan keyin, "sodda" ekan debdide kim bo'lsayam.
O'zi, Asadbek aka bu forumdan chiqadigan eshikni "ko'rsatib" qo'ygan user emasmi mobodo?:lol:
Hibiscus
04-13-2008, 04:20 PM
Naprimer:
Izida: zayavlyaet chto Uzbeki bezkul'turnie. Ya otvergayu s faktami a ona stavit moe intelektual'nie sposobnosti pod vopros.
Kolobok: iz jopi vitaskivaet zamishleniya o moem mnenii po otnoshenii sluchaya s pamyatnikom.
Nemets: daet mne warning za to chto pisal na tureckom, a sam postoyanno nasmeivaetsya i izdevaetsya nad jitel'yami sel'.
U nih est' odna obshaya cherta: none of them speak uzbek properly and alienated from uzbek culture, but feel they are the "best" uzbeks and feel like others are backward and worthless creatures.
I don't think there is a need to go into this topic so DEEP. Otherwise it will be like "he says, she says". It's not that they don't speak proper uzbek or they are alienated from uzbek culture, there were raised in a different environment and they think different, act different, live different. It's hard to tell who got alienated or who alienated them...You just have to accept people the way they are, and not try to change them.
Maroon
04-13-2008, 04:21 PM
It not is not "who is best" that concerns me, it is the feeling of entitlement some users have to mock and look down on others and their cultural and religious values, do you get it now super smart Italian football fan?
You mean Uzbeks and Muslims? But I am sure you are fine when Jews, Americans, Catholics, Russians and etc are mocked right?
The problem in this forum is that unless their nationality, culture and religion is not critisized it is fine to criticise others.
But this forum is known to be hypocritical all the way. No wonder.
Shokirbek
04-13-2008, 04:23 PM
Зависит от весовой категории оппонента :)
Da, zavisit ot vesovoy kategorii mozga opponenta.. :)
Menimcha, munozara quyidagi asoslarga suyanganda ancha foydali bo'ladi:
1 - Qarshi tomon fikrini hurmat qilish. Qarshi fikr qanchalik sayoz yoki egasi sodda, bema'ni ko'rilmasin, baribir, uning fikrlariga hurmat bilan javob berish.
2 - Munozara qiluvchining maqsadi ko'tarilayotgan muammo (fikr, qarash)da haqiqat aniqlanishi uchun intilmoq bo'lishi kerak, o'zining fikri ustun bo'lishi, boshqalar tomonidan haq deb qabul etilishi uchun emas.
3 - O'z fikrini bildirayotganda balandparvoz so'zlardan uzoq bo'lmog'i kerak, kamtarlik, kamsuqumlikni qo'ldan bermaslik kerak.
MUHLIS
04-13-2008, 04:24 PM
I don't think there is a need to go into this topic so DEEP. Otherwise it will be like "he says, she says". It's not that they don't speak proper uzbek or they are alienated from uzbek culture, there were raised in a different environment and they think different, act different, live different. It's hard to tell who got alienated or who alienated them...You just have to accept people the way they are, and not try to change them.
Please, understand, I don't care how they live and how they were raised, I am concerned with their attitudes towards my personality, my culture, my religion. I don't discuss their culture, their religion (or atheism) and I expect the same!
W.I.Z.A.R.D
04-13-2008, 04:26 PM
Posmotrel ya na poslednie tendentsii na forume i zadalsya voprosom, pochemu nekotoriye user'y ne umeyut sporit', sryvayutsya na lichnosti i prinimayut mnogie veschi blizko k serdtsu? Chto eto - nedostatki vospitaniya, kul'tury, nedoobrazovannost' ili chto-to chetvertoe? A mojet nedostatki emotsiy i sobytiy v real'noy jizni???
Tol'ko ne nado etot thread prevraschat' v mesto jarkih ristalisch, vzaimnih obvineniy i nahojdeniy kozlov otpuscheniya...
Я думаю не должно быть так как, умеем ли МЫ, а тут должен каждый себе задать вопрос, умею ли Я, вести цивилизованную дисскусию.
anatoliydaev
04-13-2008, 04:27 PM
It not is not "who is the best" that concerns me, it is the feeling of entitlement some users have to mock and look down on others and their cultural and religious values, do you get it now super smart Italian football fan?
No I do not get it. If you feel that others look down on you, why don't you raise yourself? Or if it is beyond your capability, why don't you try to develop an anti-worry system and start living a full happy life, Herr super concerned Natialismus in-Forumuz Propagandus?
Hibiscus
04-13-2008, 04:30 PM
Please, understand, I don't care how they live and how they were raised, I am concerned with their attitudes towards my culture, my religion. I don't discuss their culture, their religion (or atheism) and I expect the same!
Believe me I completely understand you, however, among those who are just like you traditional, culture oriented, religious and etc...you can see people just like them who, you say, like to discuss and criticize people that are not like you. So the best way is to express how you think and feel and the rest to ignore.
MUHLIS
04-13-2008, 04:33 PM
No I do not get it. If you feel that others look down on you, why don't you raise yourself? Or if it is beyond your capability, why don't you try to develop an anti-worry system and start living a full happy life, Herr super concerned Natialismus in-Forumuz Propagandus?
Raise??? Where? To the expectations of you or nemets? NEVER!!!
Maroon
04-13-2008, 04:35 PM
We should start a debate night via IM conference. So much fun! Much better than arguing here! :devilish:
anatoliydaev
04-13-2008, 04:38 PM
Raise??? Where? To the expectations of you or nemets? NEVER!!!
I am less expecting you to change now or in future, unless you start killing innocent people and drink baby blood.
Exclusive
04-13-2008, 04:39 PM
We should start a debate night via IM conference. So much fun! Much better than arguing here! :devilish:
Yana 200 gr. kerosin sepvorin hammasi yonib ketadi :lol: (jk)
Maroon
04-13-2008, 04:40 PM
Yana 200 gr. kerosin sepvorin hammasi yonib ketadi :lol: (jk)
Can I get the remains of the ashes? :devil:
MUHLIS
04-13-2008, 04:40 PM
I am less expecting you to change now or in future, unless you start killing innocent people and drink baby blood.
Don't worry about me!!! Usually those who you admire and worship are killing innocent people and sucking blood! Do you want me name their names and bring up examples from their cultural rituals? You better just shut up and be a good guy who loves Del Perro!!!
anatoliydaev
04-13-2008, 04:42 PM
We should start a debate night via IM conference. So much fun! Much better than arguing here! :devilish:
Good idea. But when? Is it US night or Europe night debate? :) Maybe for the start people in the US start the debate and them provide to the ones in Europe with minutes.
Maroon
04-13-2008, 04:47 PM
Good idea. But when? Is it US night or Europe night debate? :) Maybe for the start people in the US start the debate and them provide to the ones in Europe with minutes.
US night. We Europeans need to get our beauty sleep. Unlike the US, we have class. :lol: :P
Shambles
04-13-2008, 05:06 PM
Prisoedinyayus. A to avtor temi posmotrev na poslednii tendencii na forume, zadalsya voprosom pochemu mnogie ne umeyut civilizovanno diskutirovat i sporit, NO ne zadal etot je VOPROS samomu sebe. Poroi mojno zametit chto imenno te, kto schitayut chto imenno oni vidut spor civilizovannim obrazom, perehodyat na lichnosti i prinimayut vse slishkom seryozno i blizko.
Я думаю не должно быть так как, умеем ли МЫ, а тут должен каждый себе задать вопрос, умею ли Я, вести цивилизованную дисскусию.
Rebyatki, eto iz serii "na vore shapka gorit"?:rolleyes: Ya ne imel vvidu nikogo konkretno, no yesli Vy prinyali eto na svoy schet ya ne suprotiv...
Teper' kasatel'no Vashih postov... Otkuda takaya uverennost', chto ya sebe sam ne zadaval takogo voprosa? Davayte budem operirovat' faktami, a to Vashi zaklyucheniya nemnogo, pardon, nesurazny, t.k. ishodnaya informatsiya neverna ili iskajena Vami... No yesli daje ya by posledoval Vashemu sovetu i ne otkryval takoy thread, a vse dumal i rassujdal naskol'ko ya sam umeyu vesti tsivilizovannuyu diskussiyu, to navernoe forumy nujno bylo prikryt', a kajdogo individa izolirovat' v uyedinennuyu kameru... Zrite v koren', druz'ya moi, i chitayte vnimatel'nee perviy post, gde chernym po belomu skazano, chto kidat'sya budete v drugom thread'e, a smysl etogo neskol'ko drugoy, bolee konstruktivniy...
P.S. Soglasites', chto ya Vam ochen' tsivilizovanno ob'yasnil elementarnie veschi...:D
Shambles
04-13-2008, 05:13 PM
Naprimer:
Izida: zayavlyaet chto Uzbeki bezkul'turnie. Ya otvergayu s faktami a ona stavit moe intelektual'nie sposobnosti pod vopros.
Kolobok: iz jopi vitaskivaet zamishleniya o moem mnenii po otnoshenii sluchaya s pamyatnikom.
Nemets: daet mne warning za to chto pisal na tureckom, a sam postoyanno nasmeivaetsya i izdevaetsya nad jitel'yami sel'.
U nih est' odna obshaya cherta: none of them speak uzbek properly and alienated from uzbek culture, but feel they are the "best" uzbeks and feel like others are backward and worthless creatures.
Muhlis, ya ne znayu vysheukazannih istoriy, poetomu ne berus' sudit', kto prav, a kto net...
Ya vot tol'ko dumayu, chto eto normal'no, chto nekotorie user'y ne soglasny s ideyami drugih i kategoricheski ih ne priemlyut, no vyrajat' eto nado v udobovarimoy forme, imho..
P.S. Uzbekskiy - moy rodnoy yazyk i govoryu na nem ya svobodno, tol'ko s pismennim uzbekskim bol'shie problemy and I don't think that I'm the best Uzbek (just in case)...;)
Magnolia
04-13-2008, 05:37 PM
oh me,oh my...iz muhi slona razduli :D
pravda glaza kolet vot i vozmushaemsya :lol:
kitayoza
04-13-2008, 06:59 PM
религия снова рулезззззз !!!!:twisted:
tushunmadim, nima aloqa bor dinning bu mavzuga oid?!:rolleyes: Chunmadim
kitayoza
04-13-2008, 07:03 PM
O'zi yo'q odam haqida gap ketvotti yahshimas, yahshimas... birovni birov haqidagi g'iybatini ommaga yoyvossizmi hoji aka? YANA U ODAM BILAN Asadbekni muhokama qilganingizni ham yashirmabsiz...
Asadbek aka sodda emas, oliyjanob. "ko'rsat"olmaganidan keyin, "sodda" ekan debdide kim bo'lsayam.
O'zi, Asadbek aka bu forumdan chiqadigan eshikni "ko'rsatib" qo'ygan user emasmi mobodo?:lol: Siz o'ylagan user emas u. Boshqasi.
A manam ettim "mehr ko'zda" deb.:D
Odam bitta hulosaga kegandan keyin, shu hulosasida turishi kereyde.:D
O'shandayam ja ishonib ketmagandim bir narsa qilishigayu, lekin ja vajahotimiz yomon edi.:D
A tak Asadbekni man yomonlamadim. Prosto eslab o'tdimde joyi keganda. Bundan do'stim hapa bo'ladi deb o'ylamiyman.
Kalon Bek
04-13-2008, 07:21 PM
Chutochki povoda i vse brosaetsa drug na druga. No vsyo s chegoto nachinaetsa tak chto nadeyus skoro nauchimsa civilizovanno vesti dialog.
Frida
04-13-2008, 07:58 PM
Shambles: vopros
Thread: dokazatel'stvo :lol:
kreativno, odnako.
kitayoza
04-13-2008, 08:05 PM
Shambles: vopros
Thread: dokazatel'stvo :lol:
kreativno, odnako.
ayb mandamas. O'zi birinchi boshladi.:lol:
Izida
04-14-2008, 02:39 AM
tushunmadim, nima aloqa bor dinning bu mavzuga oid?!:rolleyes: Chunmadim
Сиз курмадиз просто предыдущий постни :P Эдит киворишди :D
anatoliydaev
04-14-2008, 02:59 AM
never ever tell me what to do it is not in your competence, it is in your best interest just shut up and be a good guy who is in love with del perro.
I received your PM. According to what you wrote me, you are just a small used stinker with a huge inferiority complex. MUHLIS, I pity you.
PainKiller
04-14-2008, 03:03 AM
Шо це такэ "Цивилизованное спор-дискуссия" ???? :rolleyes:
*Принесла попкорна...ша тут будет интересно...уселась поудобней* :twisted:
Izida
04-14-2008, 03:08 AM
Naprimer:
Izida: zayavlyaet chto Uzbeki bezkul'turnie. Ya otvergayu s faktami a ona stavit moe intelektual'nie sposobnosti pod vopros.
Kolobok: iz jopi vitaskivaet zamishleniya o moem mnenii po otnoshenii sluchaya s pamyatnikom.
Nemets: daet mne warning za to chto pisal na tureckom, a sam postoyanno nasmeivaetsya i izdevaetsya nad jitel'yami sel'.
U nih est' odna obshaya cherta: none of them speak uzbek properly and alienated from uzbek culture, but feel they are the "best" uzbeks and feel like others are backward and worthless creatures.
Во первых Я не назвала их без культурными, я сказала что они не следуют элементарным правилам хорошего тона. Если бы узбеки были без культурными, думаю это одно и тоже что сказать, что нации как узбеков совсем не существует.
Когда вы кое откуда вытаскиваете не сказанные мной слова, почему бы Колобку этого не сделать, исходя из ваших всех постов вообще на форуме.;)
Если вы нарушаете правило форума, где ясно написано что нельзя писать на языках кроме как инглиш, узбек и рашн, почему бы Немцу как модератору не наказать вас. Так как правила форума для всех одинаковы. А то что он оскорбляет жителей селений, не думаю что он оскорбляет всех и безпочвенно... В противном случае думаю его вряд ли поставили бы модератором. ;)
Endi mani uzbek tilimga kelsak. Man 11 yil uzbek maktabida uqiganman. Uzbekchada hohlang yozma hohlang ogzaki siz bilan bahslashishim mumkin. Ahamiyat bergan bulsangiz, biz emas har hil suzlar bilan uzimizni oqlab boshqalarni qoralashga harakat qilayotgan. Bu siz har hil bulmagur gaplar bilan bizni haqorat qilyapsiz. Agar shahsan mani gaplarim sizga og`ir botgan bulsa ming bor uzr surayman, lekin man huddi sizga uhshagan uzbekman. Har qanday aql-idrokli odamga uhshab, uzbek bulib tugildimmi 100 yil yashasam ham uzga yurtda qonimni almashitirib quya olmayam, demak nafaqat mani balki har qanday uzbekni ham uzbek madaniyatidan yiroq deyish notugri deb uylayman. Umid qilamanki mani gaplarimdan togri hulosa chiqarasiz deb. :rolleyes:
PainKiller
04-14-2008, 03:12 AM
ну и вообще, можно тему прикрыть, то что хотели доказать уже доказали и горло друг-другу успели перегрызть.
Господа, всем бeшенным выписываем Физкультурно оздоровительное лечение+успокаивающие пилюли.
http://www.solnet.ee/holidays/pic/s7_33_06.jpg
Masanori
04-14-2008, 04:39 AM
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL!
A ved vse tak civilizovanno nachinalos!
on: Civilzovannaya diskussiya - ponyatie rasstejimoe! Kajdiy civilizovan po svoemu!
Dlya kogo-to oskorblenie i perehod na lichnosti vo vremya diskusii mojet i yest civilizaciya! Ved ranshe lyudi i v pravdu glotki drug-drugu grizli!
kitayoza
04-14-2008, 11:04 AM
Я не буду сейчас требовать доказательств того, что я ненавижу и смеюсь над кишлачными, так как понимаю, что ты превратишь этот тред в мусорку с сылками на сообщения, которые только ты почему то воспринял за насмешку над областными. Не об этом вообщем, да и не люблю я такой "дипломатии" копания в чужом белье, а вот о чём.
Мухлис, помнишь несколько лет назад тут тебя раскритиковали половиной форума? Я тогда всем написал, что не стоит тебя ругать, так как ты был молодой, но с потенциалом, который, при умелом пользовании можно направить на пользу себе и окружающим. Прошло несколько лет, ты получил американское образование, вернулся в Узбекистан, но реализовать себя не смог, так как везде вокруг тебя проблемы. Ты везде вокруг себя всех провоцируешь и жалуешься на то какой ты бедный и провинциальный парень.
Поэтому, хочу сказать тебе, что ты ещё молодой и совсем неопытный. Набирайся мудрости и избавляйся от своих компплексов. Можно сказать я тебе желаю всего наилучшего а этом жёстком мире.
Bunaqa cevilizovanniy namyoklardan keyin, cevilizovanniy qilib javob berib bo'ladimi nemestboy.:D
Qisqa qilib "haripsan, haripligincha qolasan" deb qo'yseyzchi a?!:D
Shambles
04-14-2008, 11:17 AM
To Moderators:
This thread didn't serve its purpose and, therefore, should be closed... Sorry for any inconvenience caused.
SAMARKANDI!
04-14-2008, 11:23 AM
Bunaqa cevilizovanniy namyoklardan keyin, cevilizovanniy qilib javob berib bo'ladimi nemestboy.:D
Qisqa qilib "haripsan, haripligincha qolasan" deb qo'yseyzchi a?!:D
E aka qiziq gap qildizku a? :lol: fikirlashizga qoyil sizi. manam "haripman" unda rayonda tugilganman, InshaAllah usha hariplarni qol ostida bolasiz hali ancha vaqt :D
Sizidaqa odamlarni fikirilashi boyicha harip+quruq=Uzbekistan togrimi :D
To Moderators:
This thread didn't serve its purpose and, therefore, should be closed... Sorry for any inconvenience caused.
And the starter of the thread must be banned as well for indirectly initiating the fights :D jk.
anatoliydaev
04-14-2008, 12:12 PM
Bunaqa cevilizovanniy namyoklardan keyin, cevilizovanniy qilib javob berib bo'ladimi nemestboy.:D
Qisqa qilib "haripsan, haripligincha qolasan" deb qo'yseyzchi a?!:D
I did not get it where nemets named MUHLIS "harip"? Could you highlight that part of nemets post?
R.Azimov
04-14-2008, 12:19 PM
this is the most "civilizovanniy" discussion ever!
closed!
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