Is Guardian enough to be Moderator on general board?

[dauphin]

I clearly understand Moderators are elected by forum users but they are chosen by Megaz. It seems to me Guardian is misusing moderator privileges by warning users based on personal issues. And I am not the only one who thinks that he warned me and Samarkandi based on his personal problems. He sent me notifications that I have been warned for defamation/kleveta. WTF? Let's vote if he was neutral or not on the issue. I don't care about the warnings and I don't even care if someone bans my nick on the forum, but I do care about what is going on around me.
Here is the thread you can see yourself (http://forum.arbuz.com/showthread.php?t=44187&page=9)




SORRY I MISSED A WORD ON THE TOPIC. I MISSED THE WORD NEUTRAL. PLEASE CAN SOMEONE CORRECT THAT FOR ME? THANK YOU.

[nelegal]

dauphin, sorry bro, but why so much hysteria?

[SAMARKANDI!]

I agree 100% with the issue in question. Guardian is clearly acting on personal motivations. In several occasions I have noticed that not only he is giving me and other users unfair warnings but also he is indirectly supporting his friend Bukharan by not giving a single warning or even verbally reminding her of her open insults and agitations. I believe this moderator, for some reason, has personal grudge on me which should not be reflected on public forum but needs to be discussed privately. I think he needs some time off from his duties.

[SAMARKANDI!]

dauphin, sorry bro, but why so much hysteria?

I think you were also expressing some discontent in the "problems" section about ur ban or smth.

This is not hysteria, simply trying to face the truth.

[dauphin]

dauphin, sorry bro, but why so much hysteria?

Nelegal let's call events with its name. It is not hysteria but it is putting someone into his own place. Because, the guy is doing whatever he wants to do. I understand he is not getting paid for the job he is doing but that does not mean forum users owe him something does it? He could behave more like mature man the other day. Instead he acted like a chicken. And still he is giving warnings to Samarkandi. WTF?

[nelegal]

dauphin, I have been reading that thread.

Just go and re-read. Bukharan's posts are certainly provocative to some users. But unlike you, who frequently used the F word, or Samarkandi who in every occasion would go personal, Bukharan did not brake the forum rules.

Thus:
You lost the debate STRATEGICALLY, and you can't coup with it and hence these topics the third day in a row.

[Guardian]

dauphin,

I don't have any friends or enemies in the forum, and I am not sort of person to go personal in the forum, unless the other side has been pushing it OTT. If you can convince both the adminstration and users to view whole the picture I can come up with PM's received from SMARKANDI and YOU who have shifted into personal level. I've been in this forum for many years now, I'm aware of rules and users' attitude, have my general assesment of people I deal with ... Let people say thier mind, however.

[Maroon]

LadyG, Uzland and now this. :lool:

[Magnolia]

LadyG, Uzland and now this. :lool:

You missed "Izida/Shambles vs. Abu-Hafiza" :lol:


P.S. moj eto hormones igrayut u vseh?;)

[Maroon]

You missed "Izida/Shambles vs. Abu-Hafiza" :lol:

Oh yes! How could I?! :lol:

[dauphin]

I was not debating with anyone. I figured out he is Bukharan from the very first day he opened the thread about the great Bukhara people. Which is technically against forum rules. No regionalism in forum! Uzbekistan is one whole. Then I was watching the debate I clearly saw insults of Bukharan but Guardian warned Samarkandi and threatened to ban him but he did not say anything about Bukharan. I just found it strange. Isn't it strange?

[SAMARKANDI!]

dauphin,

I don't have any friends or enemies in the forum, and I am not sort of person to go personal in the forum, unless the other side has been pushing it OTT. If you can convince both the adminstration and users to view whole the picture I can come up with PM's received from SMARKANDI and YOU who have shifted into personal level. I've been in this forum for many years now, I'm aware of rules and users' attitude, have my general assesment of people I deal with ... Let people say thier mind, however.

Why dont u just put the pms i sent u here, I am tired of ur threats already. I wrote u pm cuz i was deeply unsatisfied of ur actions. If u warned both me and Bukharan, I wouldnt be so disappointed, but u only warned me and directed ur writings only to me without a single mention of Bukharan's insults, saying that u have not seen anything bad in Bukharan's posts which is pure lying. Any unbiased person can see after following your actions, looking at the whole picture that u acted unjustly for which u have to answer.

[nelegal]

I was not debating with anyone. I figured out he is Bukharan from the very first day he opened the thread about the great Bukhara people. Which is technically against forum rules. No regionalism in forum! Uzbekistan is one whole. Then I was watching the debate I clearly saw insults of Bukharan but Guardian warned Samarkandi and threatened to ban him but he did not say anything about Bukharan. I just found it strange. Isn't it strange?


Even worse. You weren't debating, but you burst into the topic with the emotional F words. Why didn't you open this thread back then, instead of swearing? Is it because you weren't warned yet?

[SAMARKANDI!]

I was not debating with anyone. I figured out he is Bukharan from the very first day he opened the thread about the great Bukhara people. Which is technically against forum rules. No regionalism in forum! Uzbekistan is one whole. Then I was watching the debate I clearly saw insults of Bukharan but Guardian warned Samarkandi and threatened to ban him but he did not say anything about Bukharan. I just found it strange. Isn't it strange?

If he is really Bukharan, he needs to be indeed banned :?

[dauphin]

dauphin,

I don't have any friends or enemies in the forum, and I am not sort of person to go personal in the forum, unless the other side has been pushing it OTT. If you can convince both the adminstration and users to view whole the picture I can come up with PM's received from SMARKANDI and YOU who have shifted into personal level. I've been in this forum for many years now, I'm aware of rules and users' attitude, have my general assesment of people I deal with ... Let people say thier mind, however.

Oh yeah yes you can definitely come up with my pms to prove your point. But you deserved that and you know that.

[Magnolia]

Oh yes! How could I?! :lol:

Vot-vot,how could you not remember it?:laugh:

[nelegal]

And if it is proven that Guardian is not Bukharan, none of you will be man enough to apologize.

[dauphin]

Even worse. You weren't debating, but you burst into the topic with the emotional F words. Why didn't you open this thread back then, instead of swearing? Is it because you weren't warned yet?

I don't care about my warnings. The only thing I did not like he is still going on with his childish behavior. He is still giving warnings to Samarkandi.

[dauphin]

And if it is proven that Guardian is not Bukharan, none of you will be man enough to apologize.

Are you ever on topic?:rolleyes:

[SAMARKANDI!]

And if it is proven that Guardian is not Bukharan, none of you will be man enough to apologize.

This is a separate issue but if he is not (which i never claimed he is) I will personally apologize.

But the question is not if he is Bukharan, he misused his duties which is 100% clear.


p.s. Although I really think that they have some sort of connections besides just being forum users.

[Maroon]

Chto Iranci, chto Tadjiki u nih u mnogih odni i te je kompleksi. Im lij bi dokazat chto oni luchshe vseh, and more "aryan" than anyone. Better to be a self-confident bushman than an aryan retard. :lol:

How sad.

Good luck.

[Guardian]

Why dont u just put the pms i sent u here, I am tired of ur threats already. I wrote u pm cuz i was deeply unsatisfied of ur actions. If u warned both me and Bukharan, I wouldnt be so disappointed, but u only warned me and directed ur writings only to me without a single mention of Bukharan's insults, saying that u have not seen anything bad in Bukharan's posts which is pure lying. Any unbiased person can see after following your actions, looking at the whole picture that u acted unjustly for which u have to answer.
Bukharan was clearly a provocative poster, but he didn't go personal first. You & Co gangs changed the discussion and attacked with personal insults to which he had to reply with sarcasm. I've given you a verbal warning, the same way I have warned Bukharan. Your reaction was with personal insults to me for that, and got the warnings thereafter. Dauphin got the warning for his repeatedly posted "F" words. Why Tabriz-Han never gets warned ... despite he is from your clan? The answer he is a reasonable poster unlike you and dauphin in those threads.

[nelegal]

Voila, all sorts of allegations, just because you won't accept that you LOST.

The thing you guys are doing was so predictable. It is like the easiest way to get around. There are other ways which would require your accepting partial defeat. But, you went on arguing the defeat itself. Lets see what happens.

P.S. It may seem as if I was advocating one side a bit too much, which might later turn into allegations that nelegal, Guardian and Bukharan are the same person.

[Guardian]

Chto Iranci, chto Tadjiki u nih u mnogih odni i te je kompleksi. Im lij bi dokazat chto oni luchshe vseh, and more "aryan" than anyone. Better to be a self-confident bushman than an aryan retard. :lol:

How sad.

Good luck.
Well, it is what some poeple really think. :D

[nelegal]

Chto Iranci, chto Tadjiki u nih u mnogih odni i te je kompleksi. Im lij bi dokazat chto oni luchshe vseh, and more "aryan" than anyone. Better to be a self-confident bushman than an aryan retard. :lol:

How sad.

Good luck.
You are right. You deserve an attention too. :)

[Maroon]

Well, it is what some poeple really think. :D

People are free to think whatever they wish, but to see such discussions on imdb.com (where people come and talk about movies) is too much. ;)


You are right. You deserve an attention too. :)

Tell me about it. Maybe a nice youtube video? :lol:

[dauphin]

. Dauphin got the warning for his repeatedly posted "F" words. Why Tabriz-Han never gets warned ... despite he is from your clan? The answer he is a reasonable poster unlike you and dauphin in those threads.

What a loooser are you? You sent me pm that I received the warnings for defamation. I can post the notification. Now after words of Nelegal you are changing your mind? It must be really difficult living in your skin. If you can not tell the truth even in a virtual world.

[SAMARKANDI!]

Bukharan was clearly a provocative poster, but he didn't go personal first. You & Co gangs changed the discussion and attacked with personal insults to which he had to reply with sarcasm. I've given you a verbal warning, the same way I have warned Bukharan. Your reaction was with personal insults to me for that, and got the warnings thereafter. Dauphin got the warning for his repeatedly posted "F" words. Why Tabriz-Han never gets warned ... despite he is from your clan? The answer he is a reasonable poster unlike you and dauphin in those threads.


Firstly, I can clearly see that this is personal, first of all this is not my gang, refrain from addressing us gang, we are simply trying to get some justice. If people got dissatisfied at the same time, it doesnt mean they are gang. It actually shows that u have acted wrong and not only one person was touched by ur personal issues

I've given you a verbal warning, the same way I have warned Bukharan..

Secondly, The following is your FIRST verbal warning which addresses only ME with BOLD letters, which proves that u r LYING again. You didnt not mention Bukharan there which is why I expressed my discontent


Samarkandi, you never seem to be a little considered when debating with users. You always have to jump on personality and this is your weakness ... stay on the subject argue within the rules. Does Islam teach that? No! Behave a little, it isn't your backyard, if you are caught again arguing with someone on personal level there will be a big time ban for your as a reward.


This was again your first verbal warning that included only me? how can u lie so openly. amazed.

[PainKiller]

If I were Guardian I'd close the thread down before it started to sizzle. That's my only comment. Some people are obviously are not mature enough to carry race, ethnicity talks in a friendly manner and those conversations always end up with cursings and personal attacks. And for the future, I'd advice both Uzbeks and non-Uzbeks to open threads about those sensitive issues with the only purpose of solving them and exchanging ideas, but not putting each other down.

[Maroon]

If I were Guardian I'd close the thread down before it started to sizzle. That's my only comment. Some people are obviously are not mature enough to carry race, ethnicity talks in a friendly manner and those conversations always end up with cursings and personal attacks. And for the future, I'd advice both Uzbeks and non-Uzbeks to open threads about those sensitive issues with the only purpose of solving them and exchanging ideas, but not putting each other down.

Agree but I have to add that from my personal observation most of the threads opened on this whole Tadjik vs. Uzbek affair was mostly started by Tadjiks.

[SAMARKANDI!]

If I were Guardian I'd close the thread down before it started to sizzle. That's my only comment. Some people are obviously are not mature enough to carry race, ethnicity talks in a friendly manner and those conversations always end up with cursings and personal attacks. And for the future, I'd advice both Uzbeks and non-Uzbeks to open threads about those sensitive issues with the only purpose of solving them and exchanging ideas, but not putting each other down.

By that he would show again that he is avoiding the truth. We have a right to discuss this.

You should read the whole issue from the beginning to the end to understand what happened and before claiming such things. I never expressed any intolerance toward tadjiks. I was born in Samarkand and i very well know the people and I never had any issues with any one of them before.

[SmIlIk]

Let's be objective here. Guardian is causing "problem" for only couple of users in forum. Even in this case users should seek opinion of council which exists in forum. I will forward the thread to them and we will discuss this issue among other moderators, too. Until then this thread will be closed.

For the information of those who will want to ask this question again: Guardian is not Bukharan. If anyone doubts about the identity of these two users again, they will be warned according to forum rules.

[nelegal]

Voila! Thread will now be closed. If this would be the only problem of the World today. LMAO

[SAMARKANDI!]

Let's be objective here. Guardian is causing "problem" for only couple of users in forum. Even in this case users should seek opinion of council which exists in forum. I will forward the thread to them and we will discuss this issue among other moderators, too. Until then this thread will be closed.

For the information of those who will want to ask this question again: Guardian is not Bukharan. If anyone doubts about the identity of these two users, will be warned according to forum rules.

Thank you, I hope the issue will be reviewed objectively and taking into account all the posts that are involved.

And the thread was opened not to identify if he is Buharan but to seek justice on his actions.

p.s. Whenever I acted faulty i admitted and never bothered anyone, but this case is clear.