May muslims become Christians.

[JOUBERAR]

This is a typical story from the heart of a multifaith and, supposedly, "multicultural" paradise.

From the London Times, February 05, 2005, ”Muslim apostates cast out and are at risk from faith and family,” By Anthony Browne
While Christians who turn to Islam are feted, the 200,000 Muslims who turn away are faced with abuse, violence and even murder.
THE first brick was thrown through the sitting room window at one in the morning, waking Nissar Hussein, his wife and five children with a terrifying start. The second brick went through his car window.
It was a shock, but hardly a surprise. The week before, another brick had been thrown through the window as the family were preparing for bed in their Bradford home. The victim of a three-year campaign of religious hatred, Mr. Hussein’s car has also been rammed and torched, and the steps to his home have been strewn with rubbish.
He and his family have been regularly jostled, abused, attacked, shouted at to move out of the area, and given death threats in the street. His wife has been held hostage inside their home for two hours by a mob. His car, walls and windows have been daubed in graffiti: ”Christian bastard”.
The problem isn’t so much what Mr. Hussein, whose parents came from Pakistan, believes, but what he doesn’t believe. Born into Islam, he converted eight years ago to Christianity, and his wife, also from Pakistan, followed suit.
While those who convert to Islam, such as Cat Stevens, Jemima Khan, and the sons of the Frank Dobson, the former Health Secretary, and Lord Birt, the former BBC Director-General, can publicly celebrate their new religion, those whose faith goes in the other direction face persecution. Mr Hussein, a 39-year-old hospital nurse in Bradford, is one of a growing number of former Muslims in Britain who face not just being shunned by family and community, but attacked, kidnapped, and in some cases killed. There is even a secret underground network to support and protect those who leave Islam. One estimate suggests that as many as 15 per cent of Muslims in Western societies have lost their faith, which would mean that in Britain there are about 200,000 apostates.
For police, religious authorities and politicians, it is an issue so sensitive that they are accused by victims of refusing to respond to appeals for help. It is a problem that, with the crisis of identity in Islam since September 11, seems to be getting worse as Muslims feel more threatened.
Muslims who lose their faith face execution or imprisonment, in line with traditional Muslim teaching, in many Islamic countries, including Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt and Yemen. In the Netherlands, the former Muslim MP, Ayan Hirsi Ali, had to go into hiding after renouncing her faith on television. The Prince of Wales recently held a meeting with religious leaders to consider ways to stop former Muslims being persecuted in other countries, but Britain itself is also affected.
Mr. Hussein told The Times: ”It’s been absolutely appalling. This is England — where I was born and raised. You would never imagine Christians would suffer in such a way.”
The police have not charged anyone, but told him to leave the area. ”We feel completely isolated, utterly helpless. I have been utterly failed by the authorities. If it was white racists attacking an Asian guy, there would be an absolute outcry,” he said. ”They are trying to ethnically cleanse me out of my home. I feel I have to make a stand as an Asian Christian.”
Yasmin, who was raised in the North of England, has been forced out of her town once, and is now trying to resist being chased out again. Brought up in a Muslim family, she converted after having a vision of Jesus when she gave birth to her youngest son, and was baptised in her thirties.. ”My family completely disowned me. They thought I had committed the biggest sin — I was born a Muslim, and so I must die a Muslim. When my husband found out, he totally disowned my sons. One friend tried to strangle me when I told him I was converting,” she said.
”We had bricks though our windows, I was spat at in the street because they thought I was dishonouring Islam. We had to call the police so many times. I had to go to court to get an injunction against my husband because he was inciting others to attack me.”
She fled to another part of Britain, but the attacks soon started again as locals found out about her. ”I wasn’t going to leave again,” she said, adding that it was the double standards of her attackers that made her most angry. ”They are such hypocrites — they want us to be tolerant of everything they want, but they are intolerant of everything about us.”
With stories like these from the heart of a supposed civilised society, you can see how much worse it is for others in third world countries.
There are reports every day of persecution and attacks of Hindus, Buddhist Tamils and Thais, and of course Christians and Copts, who aren’t allowed to freely and peacefully live their lives, but are constantly assailed and threatened.

[lost]

i like your avatar :D



may you be banned forever :D

[VACHACH]

i like your avatar :D



may you be banned forever :D

Amin!!!

:D but i like ur avatar man! pretty funny...

[Huzuri]

This is a typical story from the heart of a multifaith and, supposedly, "multicultural" paradise.

From .

Nima qilasan qiynalib, borib ozingning hristianga nasihat qilsang bo'lardi, lekin ular seni qabul qilisharmikan.
bu erda musulmonlar bo'lgani uchun sening so'zlaringni qabul qilishi qiyin. itak javoblaringni etarlicha olding.

[Alouddin]

the topic reads "May muslims become Christians." -- is this a wish or u dropped an N in the first word?

[Пушкарева]

YouTube - Fake Christians fabricate conflict with Islam

[oops_Shirin]

Kovlab, kovlab nimalardi topib kemidi:rolleyes: Nu lij bi chto-to da nayti pro Muslims:rolleyes: Сидит сам себе глаза радует.
May Allah guide you to the right path before its too late.

[himalay]

дунё шундай булган ва булади: замона зурники, томоша курники, токи адолатли бир тизим (диний ёки дунёвий - фарки йук) хаммасига чек куймагунча.

"жавоберар",

агар мусулмонларни (ёзаётган постларингдан тугри хулоса чикарган булсам) аламзада ёки зуровонликка мойил халк деб таърифламокчи булсанг, унда айтадиган гапим шу - мен мана шундай халкнинг фарзанди эканлигимдан фахрланаман. айнан мана шундай зуровонлардан узокрокда юриш узингнинг жонинга оро киради. сен хозир бировларнинг хаётидан (хакикий ёки тукилган) хикоя ёзаяпсан, эртага одамлар сенинг хаётинг хакида мана шундай хикоя ёзиши мумкин - сен яхшиси узинга эхтиёт бул.

узингники билан узлигингни топа олмадингми, бировники билан хеч качон топа олмайсан. бундан баттар булмайсанми...

[JOUBERAR]

YouTube - Fake Christians fabricate conflict with Islam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owCXbDVTLRE)

There is lot of fake christians but CHRIST is not a fake if want to challenge me about challenge me.

[Kalon Bek]

There is lot of fake christians but CHRIST is not a fake if want to challenge me about challenge me.

YouTube - Is the bible God's? Ahmed Deedat vs Anis Sorrosh 20 of 29

[Kalon Bek]

YouTube - Is the bible God's? Ahmed Deedat vs Anis Sorrosh 22 of 29


To jaouberar
I need a very detailed explanation not a bunch of useless verses with no any benefit for mankind

[JOUBERAR]

YouTube - Is the bible God's? Ahmed Deedat vs Anis Sorrosh 22 of 29 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=yrdUy6eT49U&feature=related)


To jaouberar
I need a very detailed explanation not a bunch of useless verses with no any benefit for mankind

Is the quran GOD'S quran in the quran Allah never said he is the GOD of Isreal but muslims want to "proclaim" that Allah is the same god as the jews and the christians and that is not so because he never claimed he is the god or the allah of isreal nowhere in the quran or hadiths.

[Kalon Bek]

Is the quran GOD'S quran in the quran Allah never said he is the GOD of Isreal but muslims want to "proclaim" that Allah is the same god as the jews and the christians and that is not so because he never claimed he is the god or the allah of isreal nowhere in the quran or hadiths.

Have you ever read the Holy Qur'an?

[Aziz]

Is the quran GOD'S quran in the quran Allah never said he is the GOD of Isreal but muslims want to "proclaim" that Allah is the same god as the jews and the christians and that is not so because he never claimed he is the god or the allah of isreal nowhere in the quran or hadiths.

first of all...we read in the holy Qur'an

"[17:36] And pursue not that of which thou hast no knowledge; for every act of hearing, or of seeing, or of (feeling in) the heart will be enquired into (on the Day of Reckoning)."


then...regarding your claim
"[2:132] And this was the Legacy that Ibrahim left to his sons, and so did Ya'qub; "O my sons! Allah hath chosen the Faith for you; then die not except in the state of submission (to Allah). [133] Were ye witnesses when Death appeared before Ya'qub? Behold he said to his sons: "What will ye worship after me?" They said: "We shall worship thy God and the God of thy fathers, - of Ibrahim, Isma'il and Ishaq, - the One (True) God: to Him we bow (in Islam)." [134] That was a People that hath passed away. They shall reap the fruit of what they did, and ye of what ye do! Of their merits there is no question in your case!"


"[2:246] Hast thou not turned thy vision to the Chiefs of the Children of Israel after (the time of) Musa? They said to a Prophet (that was) among them: "Appoint for us a king, that we may fight in the cause of Allah." He said: "Is it not possible, if ye were commanded to fight, that ye will not fight?" They said: "How could we refuse to fight in the cause of Allah, seeing that we were turned out of our homes and our families?" But when they were commanded to fight, they turned back, except a small band among them. But Allah has full knowledge of those who do wrong."

"[3:84] Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Ibrahim, Isma'il, Ishaq, Ya'qub, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Musa, 'Isa, and the Prophets, from their Lord: we make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)." "

"[4:157] That they said (in boast), "We killed Al-Masih 'Isa the son of Maryam, the Messenger of Allah"; but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not. [158] Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise."

"[4:163] We have sent thee inspiration, as We sent it to Nuh and the Messengers after him: We sent inspiration to Ibrahim, Isma'il, Ishaq, Ya'qub, and the Tribes, to 'Isa, Ayyub, Yunus, Harun, and Sulaiman, and to Dawud We gave the Psalms. [164] Of some Messenger We have already told thee the story; of others We have not, and to Musa Allah spoke direct."

"[4:171] O People of the Book! commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Al-Masih 'Isa the son of Maryam was (no more than) A Messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Maryam, and a Spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is One God: glory be to Him: (far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.:


If you are not convinced yet...I have more :)

[JOUBERAR]

first of all...we read in the holy Qur'an

"[17:36] And pursue not that of which thou hast no knowledge; for every act of hearing, or of seeing, or of (feeling in) the heart will be enquired into (on the Day of Reckoning)."


then...regarding your claim
"[2:132] And this was the Legacy that Ibrahim left to his sons, and so did Ya'qub; "O my sons! Allah hath chosen the Faith for you; then die not except in the state of submission (to Allah). [133] Were ye witnesses when Death appeared before Ya'qub? Behold he said to his sons: "What will ye worship after me?" They said: "We shall worship thy God and the God of thy fathers, - of Ibrahim, Isma'il and Ishaq, - the One (True) God: to Him we bow (in Islam)." [134] That was a People that hath passed away. They shall reap the fruit of what they did, and ye of what ye do! Of their merits there is no question in your case!"


"[2:246] Hast thou not turned thy vision to the Chiefs of the Children of Israel after (the time of) Musa? They said to a Prophet (that was) among them: "Appoint for us a king, that we may fight in the cause of Allah." He said: "Is it not possible, if ye were commanded to fight, that ye will not fight?" They said: "How could we refuse to fight in the cause of Allah, seeing that we were turned out of our homes and our families?" But when they were commanded to fight, they turned back, except a small band among them. But Allah has full knowledge of those who do wrong."

"[3:84] Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Ibrahim, Isma'il, Ishaq, Ya'qub, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Musa, 'Isa, and the Prophets, from their Lord: we make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)." "

"[4:157] That they said (in boast), "We killed Al-Masih 'Isa the son of Maryam, the Messenger of Allah"; but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not. [158] Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise."

"[4:163] We have sent thee inspiration, as We sent it to Nuh and the Messengers after him: We sent inspiration to Ibrahim, Isma'il, Ishaq, Ya'qub, and the Tribes, to 'Isa, Ayyub, Yunus, Harun, and Sulaiman, and to Dawud We gave the Psalms. [164] Of some Messenger We have already told thee the story; of others We have not, and to Musa Allah spoke direct."

"[4:171] O People of the Book! commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Al-Masih 'Isa the son of Maryam was (no more than) A Messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Maryam, and a Spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is One God: glory be to Him: (far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.:



If you are not convinced yet...I have more :)




1 Chronicles 4:9-10

And Jabez was more honorable than his brethern: and his mother called him Jabez saying, Because I bare him with sorrow. And Jabez called on the God of Isreal saying, Oh that thou wouldest bless me indeed, and enlarge my coast, and that thine hand might be with me, and that thou wouldest keep me from evil, that it may not grieve me! And God granted him that which he requested

The GOD OF ISRAEL Gen. 33:20 THE EVERLASTING GOD Gen. 21:33
Deuteronomy 6:4 - Hear, O Isreal: The LORD our God is one" LORD.
__________________

[Kalon Bek]

1 Chronicles 4:9-10

And Jabez was more honorable than his brethern: and his mother called him Jabez saying, Because I bare him with sorrow. And Jabez called on the God of Isreal saying, Oh that thou wouldest bless me indeed, and enlarge my coast, and that thine hand might be with me, and that thou wouldest keep me from evil, that it may not grieve me! And God granted him that which he requested

The GOD OF ISRAEL Gen. 33:20 THE EVERLASTING GOD Gen. 21:33
Deuteronomy 6:4 - Hear, O Isreal: The LORD our God is one" LORD.
__________________

what's your nationality? jew?

[Aziz]

1 Chronicles 4:9-10

And Jabez was more honorable than his brethern: and his mother called him Jabez saying, Because I bare him with sorrow. And Jabez called on the God of Isreal saying, Oh that thou wouldest bless me indeed, and enlarge my coast, and that thine hand might be with me, and that thou wouldest keep me from evil, that it may not grieve me! And God granted him that which he requested

The GOD OF ISRAEL Gen. 33:20 THE EVERLASTING GOD Gen. 21:33
Deuteronomy 6:4 - Hear, O Isreal: The LORD our God is one" LORD.
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Meaning???

[binbirincigece]

May muslims become Christians.No, may not. Because;

Islam is the last religion came with a holy book. And if you read that book deeply; you'll see that both; Christianity and Judaism are accepted as religions came from God, the same God. But it also explains that; those religions have been changed and damaged by the hand of humans.

So; if you are a real Muslim and understood Qoran truly; you cannot change your religion to other damaged ones. How could a Muslim turns his/her belief into a one, that he/she didn't believe as original?

It's just a logical issue.

[JOUBERAR]

No, may not. Because;

Islam is the last religion came with a holy book. And if you read that book deeply; you'll see that both; Christianity and Judaism are accepted as religions came from God, the same God. But it also explains that; those religions have been changed and damaged by the hand of humans.

So; if you are a real Muslim and understood Qoran truly; you cannot change your religion to other damaged ones. How could a Muslim turns his/her belief into a one, that he/she didn't believe as original?

It's just a logical issue.
Tell why then did Jesus said he is the alfa and the omega the firts and and the last why then shall the human race need a another religion that is more corupted than the first one.
Just go and listen or read the explanation of how the muslim anti-christ look like.

Hadhrat Huzaifah (R.A.) says, Dajjal will be blind in his left eye. He will have very thick hair on his body and he will also have his own type of Jannat (Heaven) and Jahannam (Hell) with him: Although his Jannat will appear as Jannat, in reality it will be Jahannam and likewise though his Jahannam will appear to be Jahannam, in reality it will be Jannat.
(Hadith: Muslim) FABLES

How can someone have his own "heaven" and his own "hell" not even the satan have his own heaven and his hell then we can have a lot heavens to chose from it is only GOD that have a heaven and hell and HE is the ONLY ONE WHO HAVE GOT THE POWER TO THROW SOLES IN HELL and no one else
.
Ubadah bin Saamit (R.A.) once said, "I have explained Dajjal to you but I fear that you might not have understood. Maseeh Dajjal will be short, and his legs will be crooked. The hair on his head will be extremely twisted. He will have one eye (with which he can see, and this is the protruding eye about which other ahadeeth inform us) while his other eye will be totally flat. It will neither be deep (in its socket) nor protruding

How can a well educated person belive this is simple because it is out of obedience or plain simple stupedity.

The Yahudis (Jews) of Isfahaan will be his main followers.

Why the Jews of all the people on world and not pagans.

He will emerge between Shaam and Iraq, and his emergence will become known when he is in Isfahaan at a place called Yahudea.
The Yahudis (Jews) of Isfahaan will be his main followers.
Apart from having mainly Yahudi followers, he will have a great number of women followers as well.
He will have with him fire and water, but in reality the fire will be cold water while that what appears to be cold water will in reality be a blazing fire.
Those who obey him will enter "his Jannat" while those who disobey him will enter "his Jahannam."
There will be a thick fingernail-like object in his left eye.
The letters "Kaa" "Faa" "Raa" will appear on his forehead and will be deciphered by all Mu'mineen regardless of them being literate or not.
He will have a wheatish complexion.
He will travel at great speeds and his means of conveyance will be a gigantic mule. It is said that he will play beautiful music which will attract the music lovers.
Dajjal will lay claim to prophethood.
He will then lay claim to Divinity.
He will perform unusual feats.
He will travel the entire world. He will send down rains upon those who believe in him, which in turn will cause good crops to grow, trees to bear fruit and cattle to grow fat.
He will cause drought to those who disbelieve in him, resulting in starvation and hardship for them.
During those trying times the Mu'mineen will satiate their hunger through the recitation of Subhanallah and La'ilaha Ilallahu.
The hidden treasures will spill forth at his command. He will stay on this Earth for a period of forty days; the length of the first day will be one year, the second day will be equal to one month, the third day will be equal to a week and the remaining days will be normal.
He will be unable to enter Makkah because the Malaikah will be guarding the Holy City and nor will he be able to enter Madina because there will be Malaikah guarding each of the seven entrances to Madina; From Madina he will proceed towards Shaam where will be stationed.
He will emerge between Shaam and Iraq, and his emergence will become known when he is in Isfahaan at a place called Yahudea.
The Yahudis (Jews) of Isfahaan will be his main followers.
Apart from having mainly Yahudi followers, he will have a great number of women followers as well.
He will have with him fire and water, but in reality the fire will be cold water while that what appears to be cold water will in reality be a blazing fire.
Those who obey him will enter "his Jannat" while those who disobey him will enter "his Jahannam."
There will be a thick fingernail-like object in his left eye.
The letters "Kaa" "Faa" "Raa" will appear on his forehead and will be deciphered by all Mu'mineen regardless of them being literate or not.
He will have a wheatish complexion.
He will travel at great speeds and his means of conveyance will be a gigantic mule. It is said that he will play beautiful music which will attract the music lovers.
Dajjal will lay claim to prophethood.
He will then lay claim to Divinity.
He will perform unusual feats.
He will travel the entire world. He will send down rains upon those who believe in him, which in turn will cause good crops to grow, trees to bear fruit and cattle to grow fat.
He will cause drought to those who disbelieve in him, resulting in starvation and hardship for them.
During those trying times the Mu'mineen will satiate their hunger through the recitation of Subhanallah and La'ilaha Ilallahu.
The hidden treasures will spill forth at his command. He will stay on this Earth for a period of forty days; the length of the first day will be one year, the second day will be equal to one month, the third day will be equal to a week and the remaining days will be normal.
He will be unable to enter Makkah because the Malaikah will be guarding the Holy City and nor will he be able to enter Madina because there will be Malaikah guarding each of the seven entrances to Madina; From Madina he will proceed towards Shaam where Imaam Madhi will be stationed.

[Kalon Bek]

[quote=JOUBERAR;1011584]Tell why then did Jesus said he is the alfa and the omega the firts and and the last

well, He didn't say that, this is somebody else is dream:lol: give us context plz.

You looser:D

[JOUBERAR]

[quote]

well, He didn't say that, this is somebody else is dream:lol: give us context plz.

You looser:D

Who was dreaming the Apostle John you must pray very hard and hope it was a dream then Prophet Daniel was also dreaming the same dream.

Jesus said; "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in Me, even if he dies, will live" (John 11:25)

Or was Muhammed the resurrection or the death more death than life.

[Kalon Bek]

Here is some info about your "holy bible". Watch it!

YouTube - The Qur'an or the Bible,Which is God's word? ( 1 of 2 )

YouTube - The Qu'ran or the Bible,Which is God's word?(Q & A - 2 of 2)

[Bukharan]

Jouberar,

I am sure you can dedicate your time to something more worthwhile than mythology. Go and make some scientific research instead and make your people happier.

Jesus Christ never existed. There was no Jesus. It's sheer mythology. Hope you've seen it:
http://forum.arbuz.com/showthread.php?t=46657

[quote=Kalon Bek;1011855]

Who was dreaming the Apostle John you must pray very hard and hope it was a dream then Prophet Daniel was also dreaming the same dream.

Jesus said; "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in Me, even if he dies, will live" (John 11:25)

Or was Muhammed the resurrection or the death more death than life.

[JOUBERAR]

[quote=Bukharan;1015812]Jouberar,

I am sure you can dedicate your time to something more worthwhile than mythology. Go and make some scientific research instead and make your people happier.

Jesus Christ never existed. There was no Jesus. It's sheer mythology. Hope you've seen it:
http://forum.arbuz.com/showthread.php?t=46657

REALLY SO THE QURAN IS LYING NO JESUS.

IF CHRIST NEVER EXCIST WHY THEN DO MUSLIMS BELIVE IN THE ANTI-CHRIST SO CALLED DAJJAL WHY DO THEY HAVE A CURE IF HAVEN'T GOT A ILLNESS.
JUST SHOW YOU HOW STUPID YOU ARE IF YOU WANT TO TELL ME THE CHRIST DIDN'T EXCIST BUT YOU BELIVE THE ANTI-CHRIST ONE OF MUHAMMED'S FABELS HEN TOED FEET CAN YOU BELIEVE IT.

[Bukharan]

All of them belong to Semitic mythology based on various other myths. Before spreading a word try to study it carefully. Then you will understand how stupidly you've wasted your time.

[quote=Bukharan;1015812]Jouberar,

I am sure you can dedicate your time to something more worthwhile than mythology. Go and make some scientific research instead and make your people happier.

Jesus Christ never existed. There was no Jesus. It's sheer mythology. Hope you've seen it:
http://forum.arbuz.com/showthread.php?t=46657

REALLY SO THE QURAN IS LYING NO JESUS.

IF CHRIST NEVER EXCIST WHY THEN DO MUSLIMS BELIVE IN THE ANTI-CHRIST SO CALLED DAJJAL WHY DO THEY HAVE A CURE IF HAVEN'T GOT A ILLNESS.
JUST SHOW YOU HOW STUPID YOU ARE IF YOU WANT TO TELL ME THE CHRIST DIDN'T EXCIST BUT YOU BELIVE THE ANTI-CHRIST ONE OF MUHAMMED'S FABELS HEN TOED FEET CAN YOU BELIEVE IT.

[JOUBERAR]

[quote=Bukharan;1017191]All of them belong to Semitic mythology based on various other myths. Before spreading a word try to study it carefully. Then you will understand how stupidly you've wasted your time.

O then Muhammed talked about semitical myths and they believe him.

[Bukharan]

[quote=JOUBERAR;1017191]O then Muhammed talked about semitical myths and they believe him.

We are not questioning their belief in this thread but yours. Since you are trying to spread your mythology, I am asking you: do you know that your belief is nothing but a myth? There was no Jesus Christ in history. He is the continuation of Mithras, Osiris (Horus), Dionysus, Krishna and many other deities with exactly same details of life and death. What's your answer to this claim?

[Uyyonli]

[quote=JOUBERAR;1020052]

We are not questioning their belief in this thread but yours. Since you are trying to spread your mythology, I am asking you: do you know that your belief is nothing but a myth? There was no Jesus Christ in history. He is the continuation of Mithras, Osiris (Horus), Dionysus, Krishna and many other deities with exactly same details of life and death. What's your answer to this claim?
don't come up with that thing because I also have whatched it. Because Jesus is in qur'an too may be not as a Christ but he did exist. And ur right about mythology because that what we have known is that Romans put their own writings in the BOOK. They have created another religion that based on their own agenda and mythologies :lol:
Oh also did u know Allah has sent so many prophets before Jesus, Moses, Abraham and others? So u never know that smth like Krishna and etc was also sent down but people might have corrupted it? just my thoughts :lol:


So my solution Jesus did exist but he was not a God.

[Bukharan]

It is not just a single detail of Christ's life that could be seen in other myths, but his entire lifestory with no exception. Even his Last Supper, apart from Mary's conception, Christ's date of birth, his miracles like raising someone from the dead and walking on the water etc, crucifix and his resurrection after 3 days... All has been said thousands of years before his 'birth'. Apart from watching documentaries about it you can read a bestseller called 'The Jesus Mysteries. Was The Original Jesus a Pagan God?' by Timothy Freke & Peter Gandy. It's not sheer bla-bla but all based on historical and mythological facts.

Now, what rational argument do you have to base your opinion on, apart from your belief? Do you really try to question dogmas at times or have you come to this world with in-built inflexible views?

Jesus was neither God nor human being. He is a character of mythology.


don't come up with that thing because I also have whatched it. Because Jesus is in qur'an too may be not as a Christ but he did exist. And ur right about mythology because that what we have known is that Romans put their own writings in the BOOK. They have created another religion that based on their own agenda and mythologies :lol:
Oh also did u know Allah has sent so many prophets before Jesus, Moses, Abraham and others? So u never know that smth like Krishna and etc was also sent down but people might have corrupted it? just my thoughts :lol:


So my solution Jesus did exist but he was not a God.

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1 Chronicles 4:9-10

And Jabez was more honorable than his brethern: and his mother called him Jabez saying, Because I bare him with sorrow. And Jabez called on the God of Isreal saying, Oh that thou wouldest bless me indeed, and enlarge my coast, and that thine hand might be with me, and that thou wouldest keep me from evil, that it may not grieve me! And God granted him that which he requested

The GOD OF ISRAEL Gen. 33:20 THE EVERLASTING GOD Gen. 21:33
Deuteronomy 6:4 - Hear, O Isreal: The LORD our God is one" LORD.
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U should stop sitting here i feel like ur avatar suits very well and i will pray Alllah and ask him to lead u to right path, u should not offend people
it is our belief and our faith, do u think u will change our belief with ur stupid illogical statements nope, u make us stronger.