It was a mistake that i took Bukharan seriously

[Guess]

Я понимаю, что не все соглашаются с его (Bukharan) взглядами, но не думаю, что это даёт кому-либо право открывать группы на подобие этой (http://forum.arbuz.com/group.php?do=viewmembers&groupid=9). Может быть порой в его постах и наблюдаются националистические наклонности (хотя я считаю, что он больше ведётся на провокации), но в этом случае он просто должен получить предупреждение от модераторов.

В правилах форума чёрным по белому написано, что "категорически запрещаются наезды и оскорбления на других участников форума".

[Ma'ruf]

Я понимаю, что не все соглашаются с его (Bukharan) взгядами, но не думаю, что это даёт кому-либо право открывать группы на подобе этой (http://forum.arbuz.com/group.php?do=viewmembers&groupid=9). Может быть порой в его постах и наблюдаются националистические наклонности (хотя я считаю, что в больше ведётся на провокации), но в этом случае он просто должен получить предупреждение от модераторов.

В правилах форума чёрным по белому написано, что "категорически запрещаются наезды и оскорбления на других участников форума".

V smi'sle Bukharan dolzhen poluchit' preduprezhdeniye ili tot kto gruppu otkri'l?

[Guess]

V smi'sle Bukharan dolzhen poluchit' preduprezhdeniye ili tot kto gruppu otkri'l?

Группу надо закрыть :) А тем, кто в будущем будет переворачивать темы с ног на голову, пытаясь найти в каждом слове националистический подтекст, раздать warnings. Будь то Bukharan, турецкие пользователи или кто-либо другие.

[Demir Kağan]

don't be jealous because you're not invited. :lol:

[dauphin]

I am jealous because I was not invited. We should definitely close the group. Because forum is part of our life and let's not discriminate someone based on his political and social views. He seems to be good guy but he is on wrong forum.

[Demir Kağan]

so you guys want to take our right to not liking someone?

he can be anything yet its not that we don't like him because he is different from us.

[Maroon]

You have the right to not like someone but you don't have to open a group for that.

What a sad life you must have. :(

[Demir Kağan]

oh, really?

[Ma'ruf]

Olla o'zlarini keng fikrlaydigan,demokrat qilib ko'rsatmasalaringchi.
Maroon ''what a sad life you have'' deganiz nimasi?Sizga fikrlari yoqmagan odamni,yoqmadi deyish endi ''looser'' bo'p qolish bilan tengmi?O'zi u gruppaga shundoq kirib ko'ring,bir-ikkita hazil gaplardan boshqa narsa yo'q.

Bukharan haqida:O'zi umuman olib qaranganda,yomon bola emas manimcha.Lekin,saal shu qitmirligi va ikkiyuzlamachiligi bor.

Oldin ham aytganman,yana aytaman.Ikkala taraflar ham bir-birlariga loyiq.Lekin,Bukharanni bitta afzal tomoni shuki ''aqllik'' gaplar bilan,''democracy,human rights,tolerance,equality,oppresed nations(tajiks mostly)'',o'ziga e'tibor tortib o'zini jabrlanganday tutadi.Hech bo'lmasa,anavi Erondagi va Turkiyadagi ayollar haqidagi treadga kirib ko'ringlar.

Yana,Bukharanni bir hususiyati,munozara paytida zo'r-zo'r manbalar(kitoblar,ilmiy ishlar,statistik malumotlar) keltirib turib ohirida,skameykada semichka chaqib o'tirgan, kampirlarga o'hshab hulosa chiqarib qo'yadi.Ya'ni,bir qarashta juda ob'yektiv ko'rinadi hulosalari, lekin aslida bir yoqlama fikrlash.Qisqasi:Qolganlar,tupoyu bu kishim Oq Smokingda o'rtada jaltir-jultir qilib turadilar.

Bukharan,tog'ri tushunasan degan umidtaman.Tog'risi,sanga g'arazligim yo'q.:)

[Uyyonli]

why u gotta always talk shit about ppls LIFE????:twisted:
U ALWAYS MAKE MAD
STAY IN UR LANE DON'T INSULT PEOPLE WITH PERSONAL STUFF AM I CLEAR?!!! You have the right to not like someone but you don't have to open a group for that.

What a sad life you must have. :(

[Maroon]

[FONT="Century Gothic"][SIZE="2"][INDENT]Olla o'zlarini keng fikrlaydigan,demokrat qilib ko'rsatmasalaringchi.
Maroon ''what a sad life you have'' deganiz nimasi?Sizga fikrlari yoqmagan odamni,yoqmadi deyish endi ''looser'' bo'p qolish bilan tengmi?O'zi u gruppaga shundoq kirib ko'ring,bir-ikkita hazil gaplardan boshqa narsa yo'q.



Man loser dedim mi? You made the conclusion yourself. :lol:

It is childish to open a group dedicated to an entire user to make just make fun of him. How would you feel if someone did that you? Did you even put yourself on that persons place?

If you don't like him put him on the "IGNORE LIST". If you want to argue, go ahead and argue. But opening a group just for the sake of it? I don't think so.

[Maroon]

why u gotta always talk shit about ppls LIFE????:twisted:
!!!

Only a few times. Don't over-exaggerate. :lol:

U ALWAYS MAKE MAD
STAY IN UR LANE DON'T INSULT PEOPLE WITH PERSONAL STUFF AM I CLEAR?

Make life easier for yourself, and ignore me. Weirdo.

[Ma'ruf]

Man loser dedim mi? You made the conclusion yourself. :lol:

It is childish to open a group dedicated to an entire user to make just make fun of him. How would you feel if someone did that you? Did you even put yourself on that persons place?

If you don't like him put him on the "IGNORE LIST". If you want to argue, go ahead and argue. But opening a group just for the sake of it? I don't think so.

Looser demadiz lekin,''what a sad life you have'' deb ''e o'le bundan boshqa qiladigan ishing,yo'qmi,lattachaynar'' deganday tuyuldi manga.:)Man o'zim o'sha guruhta bo'lganim uchun,sal tegip ketti.Shunchaki taklif kelgandi,qo'shilib qo'ya qolgandim.

Guruh,shunchaki hazil qilib tashkil qilingandi.Bukharan qancha odamni g'ashiga tekkanini ko'rsatish uchun.

Mayli,o'chiramiz desalaring o'chirilar.

[Uyyonli]

Only a few times. Don't over-exaggerate. :lol:



Make life easier for yourself, and ignore me. Weirdo.
i would slap for this in real life :o

[Maroon]

i would slap for this in real life :o

I am honored. I never thought that telling people to ignore me, would be counted as an insult. :lool:

Made my day. :cool:

[Uyyonli]

No you called me weirdo. Take it back I am honored. I never thought that telling people to ignore me, would be counted as an insult. :lool:

Made my day. :cool:

[Kalon Bek]

O'liy agar tushunmadim gap nima haqidaligiga:rolleyes:

[Sirena]

Buharan qattadir shikoyat yozdimi manga haqorat qilyapsizlar deb, o'zi hech narsa demagan bo'lsa nimaga uni yosh bolaga o'hshab himoya qilishimiz kerak? U gruppa hazil toifasida ochilgan, let us have some fun.

[Uyyonli]

Thank You!!!Buharan qattadir shikoyat yozdimi manga haqorat qilyapsizlar deb, o'zi hech narsa demagan bo'lsa nimaga uni yosh bolaga o'hshab himoya qilishimiz kerak? U gruppa hazil toifasida ochilgan, let us have some fun.

[nelegal]

No guys, that group cannot be a joke.

If it was a joke, it would be open to public. But, you guys, are gossiping. Because as was said above, you have a very sad life.

Bukharan rocks, and you are the mob. Congrads.

[Sirena]

No guys, that group cannot be a joke.

If it was a joke, it would be open to public. But, you guys, are gossiping. Because as was said above, you have a very sad life.

Bukharan rocks, and you are the mob. Congrads.
Then what is the meaning of opening groups?

[ikbaljohn]

No guys, that group cannot be a joke.

If it was a joke, it would be open to public. But, you guys, are gossiping. Because as was said above, you have a very sad life.

Bukharan rocks, and you are the mob. Congrads.

Kirdim o'sha guruhga.Hech qanaqa g'iybat yo'q.Hammayoq offtop bo'p yotibdi:)

[Maroon]

Then what is the meaning of opening groups?

It is about mutual hobbies/interests and etc. And NOT about opening a whole group dedicated to users.

[Ma'ruf]

No guys, that group cannot be a joke.

If it was a joke, it would be open to public. But, you guys, are gossiping. Because as was said above, you have a very sad life.

Bukharan rocks, and you are the mob. Congrads.

Qo'shiling,guruhga bir qarab chiqing..hech qanaqa gossip-mossip yo'q.Hazil-huzul holos.:)Jaa unaqa jiddiy bo'lmanglar odamlar.:cool:

[nelegal]

Qo'shiling,guruhga bir qarab chiqing..hech qanaqa gossip-mossip yo'q.Hazil-huzul holos.:)Jaa unaqa jiddiy bo'lmanglar odamlar.:cool:

Ma'ruf, man anu turon guruhiga bir uch marta qushilgandim, bir uchmarta haydavorishdi. Keyin u guruhni private qilishdi, mandaqa bezlardan charchab. :) Harakat qilganimda bunisiga quyadi deb uylaysizmi... Kiyin, bu tuhmatchilar guruhi, harakat ham qilmiyman. Yopishib olib bir honada, Bukharan haqida gapiriyaptilar.

[Sirena]

It is about mutual hobbies/interests and etc. And NOT about opening a whole group dedicated to users.
I think you wanted to say "against" instead of "dedicated"
Then lets indicate somewhere that forum users cannot open any group dedicated to any user.

[Maroon]

I think you wanted to say "against" instead of "dedicated"
Then lets indicate somewhere that forum users cannot open any group dedicated to any user.

I meant generally regardless of the purpose be it a "fan club" or "haters club". But yes, when it comes specifically to Bukharan "against" would be appropriate.

[Ma'ruf]

Ma'ruf, man anu turon guruhiga bir uch marta qushilgandim, bir uchmarta haydavorishdi. Keyin u guruhni private qilishdi, mandaqa bezlardan charchab. :) Harakat qilganimda bunisiga quyadi deb uylaysizmi... Kiyin, bu tuhmatchilar guruhi, harakat ham qilmiyman. Yopishib olib bir honada, Bukharan haqida gapiriyaptilar.

Haydashdi deng?:)Bechora!:(
Hay hay sekinroq..manam borman u guruhta.:lol:
Man sizga o'zim bitta priglasitel'ni'y oberaman..yoki bo'masa guruhni ochiq qilamiz.:cool:

[Ma'ruf]

I meant generally regardless of the purpose be it a "fan club" or "haters club". But yes, when it comes specifically to Bukharan "against" would be appropriate.

You better join our group.Otherwise,we are going to gossip about you in our little haters,club..:P

C'mon,it is fun!:-D

[Maroon]

You better join our group.Otherwise,we are going to gossip about you in our little haters,club..:P

C'mon,it is fun!:-D

Don't worry, I am used to people gossiping about me. Enjoy it. :D

[Royal]

Я понимаю, что не все соглашаются с его (Bukharan) взглядами, но не думаю, что это даёт кому-либо право открывать группы....


Mashi gap hamma savollaqga javob bomadimi ????

hazil mutoyiba boladimi, maynavozchilik boladimi, siyosie yiki dinie gaplar boladimi..nima farqi bor....

[Bukharan]

i would slap for this in real life :o

Uyyonli,

Have you noticed that you said that to Maroon who's a lady? Don't you feel embarrassed now?

[Maroon]

Uyyonli,

Have you noticed that you said that to Maroon who's a lady? Don't you feel embarrassed now?

He has been seriously injured in the war, so let us not pay attention and just feel sorry. :( :D

[Bukharan]

Guys, I find it hilarious and even fascinating. I'm really enjoying it a big deal. I'd ask you to leave the 'Bukharan-haters club' open. These dozen users of the forum have to have a designated area for vending off their frustration in company of each other. It's like a smoking area that means a lot for smokers. So, there should be a gossip corner for petty gossipers. Therefore, I sincerely advocate for their rights to keep their childlish club up and running.

Each of them has been bruised in verbal fights with me and they cannot stand it alone anymore. They need to be united. Only one little detail amazes me: they are supposed to ignore me as the title of the club suggests. Funnily enough none of them could cope with the task. And I think they take me too seriously at times, when I ridicule their vague and void ideas, insults, childish manner of communication etc. That's why it would be better to chant for them: Losers of the world, unite!;)

[Maroon]

So, Hubs let me read the messages from the "group" and I think my favourite one was:

..........I think he had a pyhcological disorder because of being Farsi amoung Turks and he wanna be Turk but he cannot say it to us .............



:lool: Anekdot de.

[Uyyonli]

Uyyonli,

Have you noticed that you said that to Maroon who's a lady? Don't you feel embarrassed now?oh I am sorry but I think she called me a weirdo :D

He has been seriously injured in the war, so let us not pay attention and just feel sorry. :( :D
oh now u think I am mentally retarted? :lol: oops:P

[Uyyonli]

So, Hubs let me read the messages from the "group" and I think my favourite one was:



:lool: Anekdot de.
it is a psichological war so :lol:

[Maroon]

oh I am sorry but I think she called me a weirdo :D


oh now u think I am mentally retarted? :lol: oops:P

I said you were injured, I did not say where. But thanks, you've helped me guess. :D

[Uyyonli]

Guys, I find it hilarious and even fascinating. I'm really enjoying it a big deal. I'd ask you to leave the 'Bukharan-haters club' open. These dozen users of the forum have to have a designated area for vending off their frustration in company of each other. It's like a smoking area that means a lot for smokers. So, there should be a gossip corner for petty gossipers. Therefore, I sincerely advocate for their rights to keep their childlish club up and running.

Each of them has been bruised in verbal fights with me and they cannot stand it alone anymore. They need to be united. Only one little detail amazes me: they are supposed to ignore me as the title of the club suggests. Funnily enough none of them could cope with the task. And I think they take me too seriously at times, when I ridicule their vague and void ideas, insults, childish manner of communication etc. That's why it would be better to chant for them: Losers of the world, unite!;)
Bukharan I have nothing against you that is first, the second you are accusing people of being racist... well I have told you million times that I agree with you on our government being kind of racist. You think I am racist but I am not. I love all the nationalities even Russians that humiliated both Uzbeks and Tajiks. Uzbeks and Tajiks have lived together for milleniums, it's not right for Uzbeks to even see Tajiks as not part our national heritage because we HAVE Persian blood that runs in our blood veins.
Do you remember it was only me and you had some discussion with respect to each other till you accuse me of something.
I am against Racism. I naturally have an immune against racist guys who say something descriminating agains my nationality. And I believe you too have that. I sometimes appreciated your topics about racism in Turkiye Uzbekistan and etc... But what I think you should also look into Iranian/Tajikistan's discrimination against the others.
In Russia we both Uzbeks/ Tajiks as you know of but whenever we talked about Russia you have not participated :)
So don't you want to listen what I say? :lol:

[SAMARKANDI!]

Guys, I find it hilarious and even fascinating. I'm really enjoying it a big deal. I'd ask you to leave the 'Bukharan-haters club' open. These dozen users of the forum have to have a designated area for vending off their frustration in company of each other. It's like a smoking area that means a lot for smokers. So, there should be a gossip corner for petty gossipers. Therefore, I sincerely advocate for their rights to keep their childlish club up and running.

Each of them has been bruised in verbal fights with me and they cannot stand it alone anymore. They need to be united. Only one little detail amazes me: they are supposed to ignore me as the title of the club suggests. Funnily enough none of them could cope with the task. And I think they take me too seriously at times, when I ridicule their vague and void ideas, insults, childish manner of communication etc. That's why it would be better to chant for them: Losers of the world, unite!;)

Remarks on the highlighted lines: If u haven’t noticed yet, I have been ignoring u for quite some time already, as u noted urself, my posts to u are mainly offtop. If I wasn't ignoring you I would sit like u in front of the comp all day long to dig for some materials, books, articles etc to prove with facts that u r biased. But I won't cuz its useless :D

If I took you seriously I would carry serious and backed with facts conversations with you. If i discuss smth with someone seriously I dont play around with offtop names. U r indeed not a serious user for me :D

Well, good thing that u said it urself that all u do here is ridicule someone or the whole nations directly or indirectly whether he/she has valid or invalid (in ur view) ideas or values. And thats ur problem, people disagree with u cuz u cant stop using such tactics. Thats the exact reason why i asked u before several times that u must have had some very bad experience with uzbeks or turks (which of course u r not gona reveal here). If you were a bit tolerant you would stop your agitations and indirect denigrations of turkic nations. Whatever u have bad with turkic people does not and should not generalize on to the whole nations. A good observer will/can clearly see, if he/she goes through ur threads and posts, what u r really up to here. But if u change ur attitude, as I said even before I welcome u, but with ur current two faced, racist, intolerant approach, u can't help but stumbling on people like me who perhaps unlike others can see and able to speak up against ur unfriendly intentions.

Regarding you fan club, as u said let it be, it is not a gossip or some secret organization against u, cuz everyone can join it and everyone can see it and change it for good or bad, it is simply a result of your work here. Some people disagreed and united in their opinions, as u call it democracy.

p.s. I know it wont stop u, cuz u have a goal here and I see its pretty strong one to degrade turkic nations. But I would still ask u to stop and just come to common terms with us.

[SmIlIk]

This is so sad. If you do not take someone serious, do not talk to him or pay attention. Someone took him so serious that they opened a group to offend him? Very sad. I didn't take a look to the group yet but whoever opened it will be punished accordingly. There is no justification for recruiting hate in forum twoards any forum user.

Bukharan, let's not make martyr of yourself here. You are equally guilty for insulting or how you call it "bruising" other users. Even if your posts were worded "politically correctly", bricks of your posts were intended to downgrade your opponents regardless of their replies. You were long tolerated in forum for such actions. Going forward each and every moderator will be asked to look at your posts closely.