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Prince
05-12-2002, 03:03 AM
Bugunga kelib Uzbekiston Respublikasi bir necha yuz Iqtidorli Yoshlari "UMID" jamgarmasi buyicha chet el davlatlarida tahsil oldilar va olmoqdalar.......
Menimcha tahsil tugatganlar xam bor lekin men uzimning hayotim davomida xali birorbir UMIDchini FAOL xarakatini kurmadim :( Ular umuman qaytib kelmayaptimi?Yoki Umidlarizga yul yuqmi ???Xar holda Umid jamgarmasidan uqib kelgan yoshlarni FAOL xarakati - Vatan taraqqiyotidan dalolatdir
Fikr mulohazalarni kutamiz!!
sherzodr
05-12-2002, 07:12 AM
Umid Jamg'armasinig tashkil qilinishining o'zi kattakon xato edi.
Ular bizni ilg'or mamlakatlarda o'qitib, shuncha bilimimizni, dunyo qarashimizni oshirishdiyu, lekin qaytib borgach biz bilan loyiq darajada munosabat qilish haqida o'ylab ko'rishmadi!
Bizni majburlab yana o'sha tuzumga bo'ysundirishdi! Xo'sh, millat uchun xoir 3 yil chet elda tahsil olgan bola bilan, o'zimizning universitetlarimizda tahsil olgan bolani nima farqi bor? Umuman farqi yo'q!
Albatta, holis niyat bilan qilingan ishdir, ammo holis natija olib kemayotganining o'zi UMID jamg'armasi tuzishning o'zi xatoligini ko'rsatib turipti!
{ROMEO}
05-12-2002, 08:13 AM
sherzodr (May 12, 2002 07:12):
Umid Jamg'armasinig tashkil qilinishining o'zi kattakon xato edi.
Ular bizni ilg'or mamlakatlarda o'qitib, shuncha bilimimizni, dunyo qarashimizni oshirishdiyu, lekin qaytib borgach biz bilan loyiq darajada munosabat qilish haqida o'ylab ko'rishmadi!
Bizni majburlab yana o'sha tuzumga bo'ysundirishdi! Xo'sh, millat uchun xoir 3 yil chet elda tahsil olgan bola bilan, o'zimizning universitetlarimizda tahsil olgan bolani nima farqi bor? Umuman farqi yo'q!
Albatta, holis niyat bilan qilingan ishdir, ammo holis natija olib kemayotganining o'zi UMID jamg'armasi tuzishning o'zi xatoligini ko'rsatib turipti!
SherzodR sizning fikringiz uchun raxmat albatta lekin sizning fikringizni xato yoki notugri demoqchi emasman xar bir odam uzicha fikr yuritadi yoki bulamasa uzicha mulohaza qiladi .....
mening Fikrimcha masala "Umid" jamgarmasini bolalari bilan Universistet talabasi orasida farq bor albatta .Chunki Umid jamgarmasidan tahsil olib qaytgan talaba albatta qandaydur manoda Dunyo qarashi keng buladi chunki bu talaba Dunyoni taraqqiy etgan mamlakatida uz bilim saviyasini oshirib qaytgan ..
Masalani ikkinchi tamoniga yondoshsak manimcha ular uchun malum darajada ularni qullab quvatlash ular uchun sharoit yaratish kerak va zarur!!Agar jamiyatda shunday sharoitlar yaratilsagina bu UMIDlardan Umid qilish mumkin aks holda..........
Menimcha UMIDchilarga alohida bir etibor kerak bulsa sharoit yaratish kerak va zarur chunki bu UMIDchilar Uzbekiston Respublikasidan tanlab olingan eng iqtidorli yoshlar ......
Lekin Umidchilardan yana bir iltimosim xech qachon Boshqa yuldan bormanglar chunki Vatan oldidagi burchimiz uni Taraqqiyotini taminlash bizning qulimizdadur agar Biz shunday yamon ,yamon deb yuradigan bulsak unda xech qachon taraqqiyot sari qadam quymaymiz... Bunday yamon illatlarni yuq qilish oz bulsada imkoniyatlarimizdan foydalanish kerak ....
Thank You!
katie
05-14-2002, 05:02 AM
Sorry I am not 'umidy' but i think each one of you should be more realistic about current status of Uzbekistan and uzbek nation. If you know how hard its when person has a clash between his/her own thoughts and political, economical dilemma in the country. Living and studying in abroad gives opportunity to see real picture of his/her nation from outside. therefore i in my opinion its wrong to say that students who have studied or going to abroad is mistake
Once again I am sorry If I offend anyone.
sherzodr
05-15-2002, 06:56 AM
katie, I didn't say that studying abroad is mistake. I am studying abroad, and I've seen and learn alot,and I am happy about it.
But when it comes to judging "UMID" fund itslelf as a third person (not as an Umidie), it was definitely a mistake; they spent money so that we could make a change in the nation, and at the same time they themselves started opposing us upon returning home.
They didn't treat us the way we expected, they didn't trust us they way deserved it. That's what we need in order to make a change.
They were supposed to elaborate a little more, plan things ahead before deciding launching this program
Of course, these just might thoughts...
returned umidie
05-17-2002, 03:38 AM
basicly they treat you like shit, pardon my french
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