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Tofik
03-27-2000, 01:32 PM
Hormanglar!
As you might have heard Putin became the new president of Russia. It was kinda surprise for me, because he doesn't have enough economical and political experience.
I think he became president just because of image of "volevogo i geleznogo politika" who can establish order in Russia.
Do you think he is the right person for Russia?
What is going to be internal and external policy of Russia?
Alisher
03-27-2000, 01:45 PM
He received credits from the war in Chechnya (election was even held in Chechen republic) and the help of Kremlin run ORT.
He promises stability and the power of the state. How is he going to do that? I have no idea.
Curious
03-28-2000, 09:47 AM
Eto ochen prosto Alisher.On budet "mochit vseh na sortire".
ho-ho
03-28-2000, 02:54 PM
Rugaetes' vi zrya.mezhdu prochim vo vsey etoy teatral'noy izbiratel'noy kompanii est' bezuslovnoe racional'noe zerno.Te,kto sobirayutsya zanimatsya izbiratel'nimi tehnologiyami i voobshche public relations navernoe uzhe zainteresovalis' pochemu i kak chelovek,kotorogo NIKTO,ya podcherkivayu NIKTO v Rossii ne znal gde-to do seredini Sentyabrya,esli ne dal'she,vdrug stanovitsya prezidentom takoi moshchnoi derzhavi?????Chto eto???den'gi??luchshie specialisti???Znachit li eto chto obshchestvom teper' mozhno deystvitel'no krutit' kak hochesh?A znachit li eto chto vse trepihaniya nashi i popitki chto-libo pomenyat' bespolezni???A ne kazhetsya vam ,chto kakoi-to dyaden'ka i voinu v Chechne snova razvyazal i Putina El'cinu v preemnik podgotovil,i dedune El'cinu spokoinuyu starost' obespechil vsego lish kak shagi odnogo emu izvestnogo plana????A znachit putinskoe prezidentstvo eto eshche ne konec,vse tol'ko nachinaetsya...
Ya bi skazal vse zakonchivaetsya....
Nichego ne zakanchivaetsya,potomu chto ne v Putine delo
Hi
Vsem bilo izvestno chto Mr.Putin stanet prezidentom. A pochemu, a potomuchto on sozdal,nachel i vedet voynu v Chichne.Chehcnya ostaetsya edinnom faktorom viigrasha Mr.Putina na viborah. . Nechego poka ne izvestno. No mne kajetsya chto vse konchetsya tak, kak eto bilo koncheno s El'cinom.Hotya on viigral doveriye naroda.
Mne kajetsya strannoy doljen pravit ili economist ili yurist a ne umniy politek.
Cheers
New voice
03-31-2000, 09:18 AM
Putin i est tot mujik s yuridicheskim i ekonomicheskim obrazovaniem.
1. Vipusknik yurfaka Leningradskogo Gosudarstvennogo Univera.
2. Kandidat ekonomicheskih nauk.
3. + Horoshiy agent slujbi bezopasnosti:)
ho-ho
03-31-2000, 09:27 PM
Ne nachinal Putin voinu v Chechne,ona do nego shla,vi zhe pomnite.Putin -peshka,da k tomu zhe gebist,a kgebeshnikov nikogda ne uvazhali,tak chto skoro emu otstavka svetit,vot posmotrite,vikinut ego,kak Kirienko kogda-to,ne mozhet priyti chelovek iz niotkuda,s ulici i ostatsya vo vlasti.Mavr sdelal svoe delo,mavr mozhet uhodit'...
Fourmi
04-01-2000, 08:14 AM
Putin xech narsa qilgani yo'q, uni xokimiyatga olib kelgan narsa bu Rossiyaning xaqiqiy "egalari"ning siyosiy o'yini xolos. Nima, xech kimga notanish odam birdaniga "premier" bo'lib qoldimi? Unga "reyting" uchun "chechnya" kerak edi, buni xam o'sha odamlar bungacha xal qilishgan edi. Ulardan biri - Elsin, boshqalarini bilmayman, lekin ular realno bor odamlar. Ularga ekonomic, yuridik,... savodi borligi bir pul, asosiysi ularni man'faatiga xizmat qiladigan odam kerak. Yuqorida Putinni bir necha xususiyatlarini keltiribdi kimdir. Undan kuchli (economic, politic, yuridic,..., jixatdan) shaxslar ko'p Rossiyada. Lekin president boshqa odsam bo'ladi. Ya'ni Putin. Qolgan xamma narsalar siyosiy o'yin, odamlarga xaqiqiy voqer'likni boshqacharoq qilib ko'rsatish xolos. Odamlar ("omma") esa misli poda, qayoqqa yetaklasang ketaveradi, jarga etganda o'ylashga xarakat qiladi. Rus xalqi xam xuddi shunday poda. "Xamma xalq o'zi saylagan xukmdorga munosibdir" degan edi bir faylasuf.
"Qachon xalq bo'lasan, ey sen olamon" degan ekan bir o'zbek mutafakkiri. Xalq bo'lishi uchun ("olamon"ning) intelegensiya juda ko'p xizmat qilishi, kerak bo'lganda qurbon bo'ladi, "umid"chilarga o'xshagan dunyo ko'rgan yoshlar minglab yoshlarni "odam" qiladi (umid qilaman).
Shum_Bola
04-01-2000, 09:51 AM
Assalomu Alaykum,
I have read somehow the article about Putin in Times.
When he was young KGB agent, his friend kept asking "what is your actual job?"
on which Putin replied "public relations"
So, probably he has been quite good KGB specialist?
Nodir
04-02-2000, 09:02 AM
1.Tofic tvoi slova ne vpolne pravdivi, na schet he doesn't have economical and political experience. DO togo kak om bil izbran PM on bil zamestitelem Sobchaka - mera St Peterburga. Anatoliy Sobchak prakticheski ni chego ne vipolnyal iz svoih obyazannostey on prosto nominalno stoyual u vlasti a sam razyezjal po miru, po vsyakim konferenciyam. Ego rabotu v techeniye okolo 5 let vipolnyal Putin, v eto vremya on nabral dostatochno opita(ST Peterburg - vtoroy gorod Rossii).
2.Teper tvoi vopros Tofik Is he the right person - moyo mneniye - YES HE IS. On kak utverjdayut HO-HO i Fourmi ne peshka v chyeyto igre. On kak skazal DOD ne sozdavasl i ne nachinal voynu v CHechne. Ya ne hochu skazat chto podderjivayu Putina, hotya net PODDERJIVAYU, no delo ne v tom Putin - nezavisimiy kandidat. I on edinstvenniy kto smojet navesti poryadok SEYCHAS v Rossii. No tolko v eto vremya. Hoho govorit chto ego skoro smestyat potomuchto on KGBist, naprotiv imenno poetomu ego ne smestyat. Vspomnite istoriyu s Andropovim. Kotoriy 15 let vozglavlyal KGB, i kogda umer Brejnev imenno on prishel k vlasti a nikto drugoy i imenno on postavil u vlasti Gorbacheva.
S uvajeniyem Nodir.
ho-ho
04-02-2000, 01:17 PM
Uvazhaemiy Nodir,a pomnite li Vi,no etogo ,konechno ne ya ne Vi pomnit' ne mozhem,no vse taki izvestno li Vam,kakimi metodami GBist Andropov nasazhdal poryadok v strane?Mezhdu prochim v godi ego "ruleniya" vse trudosposobnoe naselenie strani OBYAZANO bilo nahoditsya na rabochem meste,t.e ,esli vas zastavali v kinoteatre,to kak minimum administrativnogo shtrafa vam bi ne minovat',dokumenti proveryali u vseh i vsya.Putin zhe po moemu iz etoi zhe slavnoi kagorti,Rossii ne nuzhna tverdaya ruka.Potomu chto eto neizbezhno privedet k repressiyam.KGBisti prosto gryaznie lyudi,tak zhe kak i te,kto rabotayut v milicii,Nel'zya obshchatsya so vsyakim sbrodom "po dolgu sluzhbi "i ne zapachkatsya.I vot takoi chelovek NEIZVESNO KAKIMI PUTYAMI prolez vo vlast'.Kakie sdelki prishlos' emu zaklyuchit' i komu i chto i skol'ko poobeshchat',chtobi stat' presidentom,a tochnee,chtobi ego sdelali prezidentom?
Alisher
04-03-2000, 01:56 AM
Prichem odnoy iz glavnih namereniy novogo prezidenta yavlyaetsya ukreplenie vliyaniya Rossii na Centralno-Aziatskom regione. Yarkim primerom yavlyaetsya nedavniy vizit buduchego prezidenta v Uzbekistan.
Kajetsya, rossiyskaya pressa pisala o obyazatelnoy prodaje uzbekskogo xlopka Rossii v obmen na zashitu yujnih granitz. Naskolko eta invormatsiya dostovernaya ya neznayu.
I eshe, kajetsya, uje snijenni tamojennie poshlini na Rossiyskie avtomobili . Novaya "Jigulli"(2106, 2107,...) na nashem rinke seychas namnogo deshevle chem nasha otechestvennaya "Uzbechka".
Mne kajetsya Putin sigral ne malovajnuyu rol' v etom processe.
Rad uslishat' vashe mnenie.
Nodir
04-08-2000, 10:28 AM
rebyata vi nemnogo otvlekilis, vopros bil is he the right person for Russia(ne dlya nas)
ho-ho
04-08-2000, 03:50 PM
He is the wrong person for Russia
Alisher
04-08-2000, 08:08 PM
He is the right person for Russia.
It is an oriental country.
Seems like western democrasy is not going to work in Russia.
I think that Russia needs a strong president who can lead people.
ho-ho
04-08-2000, 08:39 PM
Russia is NOT an oriental country.Russia doesn't need the so-called strong hand.Russia is a NORMAL country.Russian people need the democracy as all the rest of the world.Russia will get it sooner or later."Strong hand" can throw Russia back to some wild tribal heathern organization of society.
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