Kelajagimiz Havf Ostida mi ?!

[Sayh]

Barchamizning habari bor,so'ng yillarda Gen Tehnologiyasining rivojlanishi bilan birga hayotimizga yangiliklar kirib kelmoqda.Shu bilan birga,dasturhonimizdagi oziq-ovqatlar ham bundan o'z nasibasini olmoqda.Meni shu narsa o'ylantirmoqda : Ozbekistonda ohirgi yillarda Gollandiya Kartoshkasi keng qulamda qullanila boshladi...Ushbu kartoshka unumliligi,tezpisharligi bilan birga hosildorligi bilan ham dehqonlarimizning etiborini qozondi...Lekin..? Tabiiylikdan uzoq...Malumingiz,rivojlangan davlatlarda rak kasalligi juda tarqalgan..Mutahassislar takidlashicha,buning sababi,istemol qilinyatgan mahsulotlaring suniyligidandir.Shuning uchun Evropa davlatlari va AQSH so'ng yillarda ekologik tomondan toza mahsulotlarni istemol qilishga qaratishgan oziq-ovqat programmalarini.Tashqaridan olib kelyatgan oziq-ovqatlarni ham qattiq tekshiruvdan o'tkazishadi .Natijada,3-dunyo davlatlaridan tabiiy va ekologik jihatdan toza mahsulot sotib olib istemol qilishar ekan,bu davlatlarga esa halqarining och qolmasligi uchun gen strukturasi o'zgartirilgan serhosil urug'larni sotishyapti...Kelajakda halqimizning sog'lig'ida jiddiy tasir ko'rsatadi degan fikr tug'iladi istar-istamaz...
Bu mavzudagi Fikrlaringiz ?

[Bonik]

Do'stim,
Ertadan boshlab ro'za tuting :) kamroq meva sabzavot iste'mol qiling :) O'shanda hech nima bo'midi sizga :)

Har bir inson taqdirida borini ko'radi... U ain't gonna change it...

Instead of wasting ur time thinking about gen. engineering, how about thinking about the fact that more than 50% of the population of Uzbekistan is occupied in the fields.

[CHECHEN]

Bonik (May 02, 2002 03:31):
Do'stim,
Ertadan boshlab ro'za tuting :) kamroq meva sabzavot iste'mol qiling :) O'shanda hech nima bo'midi sizga :)

Har bir inson taqdirida borini ko'radi... U ain't gonna change it...

Instead of wasting ur time thinking about gen. engineering, how about thinking about the fact that more than 50% of the population of Uzbekistan is occupied in the fields.

BONIK ,uzr lekin fikriz hato taqdirda borini koramiz desak
bomidi.asranganni hudo asridi.i bu juda muhim mavzu.
chunki ekologik vaziyat bizada juda og'ir.

[Faust]

Men Uchun bu juda katta yangilikku!

Shuncha yildan beri Germaniyada yurib, hali ham eshitmagan yoki ko'rmagan ekanmiz, nemislarni 3- dunyo davlatlaridan kartoshka piyoz sotvolib yeyotganini.
Evropa chetda sotib olish u yoqda tursin o'zida keragida ortiqcha yetishtirilgan qishloq ho'jalik mahsulotlarini qanday qilib yo'q qilishni o'ylab yotibdiku, siz chetdan sotib olayapti deysiz.
Keyin Magazinda shu voqqacha Afrika yoki Osiyodan keltirilgan kartoshka yoki piyoz yoki sabzini ko'rganimk yo'q.
Eng oliy nav, ekologik sof deb ikki uch berobar qimmat sotilayotgan mahsulotlar ham Evropani o'zida, va ko'pchilaigi esa Germaniyada yetishtirilgan.

Qishloq ho'jalik mahsulotlarini tan nathini hisobga olinganda ham, Evropada yetishtirilayotgan mahsulotlar, uzoqqa bormaylik, eng yaqin qo'shnisi bo'lgan misol uchun Polshanikidan ikki uch barobar arson.
Shundoq ekan Evropani ko'zi uchub turgani yo'q 3-dunyo davlatlarini selitra bilan yetishtirilgan mahsulotlarini sotib olishga.
Keyin yana bir gap, sizlar aytayotgan geni o'zgartirilgan Kartoshka, bizadagi 100% selitrami, ammofosmi degan dorilar bilan yetishtirilgan mahsulotlar oldida qamoqdek ketsa kerak deb o'yleyman.
Bunaqa selitrani yevropaliklar yeganda edi, erta qachon hammasi o'lib ketishar edi.

Yana bir gap qorni och odamga Kartoshkani geni o'zgartirilgani u yoqda tursin, uni geni bormi yo'qmiligini ham qizigi yo'q!!!


Etiboringiz uchun rahmat

[Sayh]

Avvalo shuni takidlashim kerak ,kartoshkani misol sifatida keltirdim holos,chunki O'zbekistonga ilk bor olib kirilgan shu bo'ldi.Bu degani ,Evropa davlatlari kartoshkani boshqa yerdan olishadi degani emas...Men Turkiyadaman,bu yerdan Evropaga ko'plab meva olib ketiladi..Masalan,gilosni olaylik...İtaliyada kattagina gilos bozori bor,Birjaga aylanib ketgan,u yerga dunyoning ko'plab davlatlaridan gilos keladi va shu yerdan boshka evropa davlatlariga tarqatiladi.Chertib chertib olishadi...
İsroilning huddi qoliptan chiqqanga uhshaydigan olmalarini ko'rganmisiz ? hammasi bir hil ,hullas ana shular ham gen muhandisligining mahsuloti.Gen strukturasi o'zgartirilgan mahsulotlar tasirini bugun yoki ertaga ko'rsatmaydi - bular o'zini 15-20 yildan keyin shiddatli ravishda ko'rsata boshlaydi...selitra va bunga o'hshagan himikatlar uni oldida hech narsa emas...

[General]

Sayhning gapi to'g'ri.
Genmuhandslikka men qarshiman, mayli kartoshka, olmalarni qo'yib turaylik, bula daje qo'y mollarni ham clone qilishyapti. Shunga mana foot & mouthdan boshi chiqmiydi.
Odamlani cloning qilish esa turib bitgan ahmoqlik.
Tak chto, sal pal cheklanmasa kelajagimiz aniq havf ostida.

[Freestyler]

Sayhga:

Uzr, ignlizchalab yozaman, tushunasiz deb umidda:

There is no scientific proof that the increase in number of cancer cases is due to the GM-food (Genetically Modified food). These are all speculations without consistent statistical evidence.

In fact many believe that the reason that cancer cases have dramatically increased in European countries is because their life expectancy hac increased very much.

Cancer, due to its nature, causes and timing, is often labeled the desease of aging. And because life-expectancy has increased so has increased the number of reported cancer cases.

Hence, it is not unequivocal that GM-food is responsible for increased cancer cases.
There are other dangers of Genetic Engineering, though...

[UTA]

hmm, yahshi fikrlar, manimcha Uzbekisotnda fakat bu gaplar 1 tiyinga kimmatde.... Narh- eng muhim omil bop qolgan, osha kartoshka misolida ham. Shuning uchun halk 1000 somga tabiiy kartoshka ogandan kora, 10 somga suniy kartoshka oladi, savolni javobiga keladigan bolsak, albatta kelajagimiza havf ostida, nafakat bizani, bizning avlodlarimizaning kelajagi ham, muhim choralar korilishi kere, no undan da muhimrok ishlar bor kilinishi kere bolgan vatanimizada.

[OPTIMIST]

Well, I wonder how widespread SKIN CANCER is becoming in Uzbekistan? Here in the UK the NHS holds campaigns about sun shine safety to raise awareness of people about how to enjoy the sun without the danger of getting skin cancer!

Considering the weather conditions and the rarity of sunny days in the UK, I think sunshine must be a damn of a problem and a cause for for SKIN cancer in UZB??

Personal view: in the last few years the fatal cancer cases must have exponentially increased in UZB, as many people that passed away, whom I know, were diagnosed with and suffering from different types of cancer!

One more little question: is cancer transmitted geneticly - from one generation to another, or what?

OPTIMIST ;p

[Freestyler]

Skin cancer cases in Uzbekistan are not as often as they are in UK, for the following reasons:

- White and fair-skinned people (brits) are far more susceptible to the desease.

- In Central Asia ( in spite of the much greater effect of UVRs and sun) have gained natural immunity and protection against the sun.

- Very few people live up to the age when cancer starts to develop. In fact most people die of heart attacks and other non-cancer deseases well before they reach the age when cancer strikes.

So the problem is rather concerning unhealthy food (greasy and high in cholesterol) rather than in sun-caused skin-cancer, or any other type of cancer.

To sum up:
Problema s rakom (hotya i sushestvuyet) ne tak aktual'na, kak problema s serdechno-sosudistimi zabolevaniyami.

[reader]

v UZB ochen mnogo diabetikov (kak vprochem vezde)
samoe strashnoe v etoy bolezni to chto ludi uznaut ob etom tolko na ochen posledney stadii bolezni-kogda nastupaet slepota, gangrena konechnostey, insult.

Tochno ustanovlena sviaz mezdu kureniem i rakom legkih. Nado zapretit reklamu kurenia esli mi deystvitelno zabotimsia o zdorovii nashego naroda.

[Sayh]

Dunyoning aksari davlatlarida sigaret reklamasi nafaqat TV'da balki pressa va ko'chadagi afishalarda ham taqiqlangan.O'zbekistonga so'nggi safarimda ko'rdimki,eng ko'p reklama sigaret firmalarining reklamasi.Savol tug'ladi: Boshqa ishlab chiqarish tovarlarining reklamalari yo'qmi ki hamma yerda sigaret reklamasi to'lib ketgan? Yana bir savol,Oliy Majlis tomonidan sogliqqa zararli moddalarning ommaviy shaklda reklamasining taqiqlanishi haqida qarori hali chiqmaganmi yoki bunga ko'z yumilyaptimi,chunki hozirgi kunda rentabl ravishda ishlayatgan sanoqli qo'shma korhonalardan biriku UzBAT ?!

[Freestyler]

Vraydli ob etom gde-libo napishut, no po-moyemu, odnim iz usloviy postavlennim pered pravitel'stvom Uzbekistana kompaniyey BAT pered sozdaniyem UzBAT bilo imenno to, chto pravitel'stvo ne doljno budet zapreshyat' reklamu tabachnih izdeliy v strane... (nu i konechno je garantiya konvertacii po dogovoryonnomu kursu i prochiye usloviya)

K sojaleniyu, imenno takogo vot roda pagubnoye vliyaniye transnacional'nih kompaniy (TNK) na blago razvivayushihsya stran i vizivayet protesti antiglobalistov po vsemu miru...

[reader]

v Evrope, USA reklamiruyut stiralnie poroshki, napitki, mashini, lekarstva ot prostudi. Nu kak mozno reklamirovat sigareti kotorie vizivaut rak legkih? Pust poprobuet BTA reklamirovat sigareti na BBC-ego Toni Bler Skrutit v baranij rog.